Reefing v easing

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BJRob
BJRob
NSW
251 posts
NSW, 251 posts
5 Mar 2017 1:29pm
My mainsail has no reefing points.
Is easing out the main in strong winds just as effective as reefing? Not talking about racing. Just cruising.
twodogs1969
twodogs1969
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
5 Mar 2017 2:10pm
Easing the main is for a gusts. If it is sustained you need to reef or change headsails.
FreeRadical
FreeRadical
WA
855 posts
WA, 855 posts
5 Mar 2017 11:41am
You end up flogging the sail, flogging the rigging, lose power, lose speed, lose pointing. = less control.
BJRob
BJRob
NSW
251 posts
NSW, 251 posts
5 Mar 2017 4:14pm
FreeRadical said..
You end up flogging the sail, flogging the rigging, lose power, lose speed, lose pointing. = less control.


Exactly what I thought.
Someone recently told me I could ease the main. Does it being a mast head make a difference?
scaramouche
scaramouche
VIC
190 posts
VIC, 190 posts
5 Mar 2017 7:38pm
Suggest RYA Sail Trim book

I like reading about this stuff
good diagrams,text
expert sailor author
cheers
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
5 Mar 2017 8:57pm
Try smaller headsail and take the main sheet traveler down to leeward and sheet on .
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
3585 posts
NSW, 3585 posts
5 Mar 2017 9:53pm
Define "effective". If you are racing hard with a good sail, a good mainsheet hand and there are lulls, flattening and easing the main can be effective. If it's full-on flogging much then it's bad for the sail and for speed, as others have noted. Getting the trim right is complicated and depends on a huge number of factors.

Mastheaders don't respond as well to fractionals to easing the main. They also can't use mast bend to depower the main in the same way. It also depends on the rest of the boat; a slender and efficient boat (like an Etchells) can sail with a full mainsail when a boat with stretchy sails and a telegraph pole for a mast must reef. The efficient boat has less drag so it can just be allowed to point higher in the gusts to depower; if you do that with an innefficient boat is just stops.
boty
boty
QLD
685 posts
QLD, 685 posts
6 Mar 2017 8:32am
Chris 249 said..
Define "effective". If you are racing hard with a good sail, a good mainsheet hand and there are lulls, flattening and easing the main can be effective. If it's full-on flogging much then it's bad for the sail and for speed, as others have noted. Getting the trim right is complicated and depends on a huge number of factors.

Mastheaders don't respond as well to fractionals to easing the main. They also can't use mast bend to depower the main in the same way. It also depends on the rest of the boat; a slender and efficient boat (like an Etchells) can sail with a full mainsail when a boat with stretchy sails and a telegraph pole for a mast must reef. The efficient boat has less drag so it can just be allowed to point higher in the gusts to depower; if you do that with an innefficient boat is just stops.


i agree with every thing said here by chris though our old girl is at her fastest when main is strapped down traveler is at the stop . My rule is that as long as the leach of the main is working and we are not stalling the keel and going sideways i dont need to change down headsails which works well on our tasman seabird though with ior boats (big headsails tiny main small fin ) this is often not the case and main needs to be reefed early or weather helm becomes uncontrollable
BJRob
BJRob
NSW
251 posts
NSW, 251 posts
6 Mar 2017 9:53am
scaramouche said..
Suggest RYA Sail Trim book

I like reading about this stuff
good diagrams,text
expert sailor author
cheers


Thanks
Trek
Trek
NSW
1213 posts
NSW, 1213 posts
7 Mar 2017 10:39am
Easing has the advantage its a lot quicker especially if racing because conversely you can put the power on quicker when the blow eases off
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