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Retro Golden Globe Race

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Created by Bananabender 4 months ago, 2 Jul 2018
Bananabender
QLD, 406 posts
2 Jul 2018 8:41AM
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For those interested race started yesterday. Two Aust. entrants.
goldengloberace.com/retro-sailing/

2bish
TAS, 223 posts
2 Jul 2018 10:36AM
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Thanks I'll check it out.

Ramona
NSW, 4449 posts
2 Jul 2018 5:14PM
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2018 Golden Globe Race approved designs: Westsail 32 ? Tradewind 35 ? Saga 34 ? Saltram 36 ? Vancouver 32 & 34 ? OE 32 ? Eric (sister ship to Suhaili) ? Aries 32 ? Baba 35 ? Biscay 36 ? Bowman 36 ? Cape Dory 36 ? Nicholson 32 MKX-XI ? Rustler 36, Endurance 35, Gaia 36, Hans Christian 33T, Tashiba 36, Cabo Rico 34, Hinckley Pilot 35, Lello 34, Gale Force 34.

Lets have a poll for armchair sailors with a choice of vessel. I would select the Rustler 36 like Susie Goodall and 6 others. I would use the Monitor vane too.

Bananabender
QLD, 406 posts
2 Jul 2018 8:03PM
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Tradewind 35 in a canter they still make them to order they are so good.
Just not sure about skippers experience with the sextant.

Andrew68
VIC, 183 posts
2 Jul 2018 9:53PM
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Unfortunately Shane Freeman from Melbourne didn't quite make it.

He put a lot of work into his blog and his boat.

freemansailing.com/about-shane/

but tragically was dismasted on the way to the start line.

freemansailing.com/2017/02/episode-38-knocked-down/

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Bananabender
QLD, 406 posts
2 Jul 2018 10:15PM
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Andrew68 said..
Unfortunately Shane Freeman from Melbourne didn't quite make it.

He put a lot of work into his blog and his boat.

freemansailing.com/about-shane/

but tragically was dismasted on the way to the start line.

freemansailing.com/2017/02/episode-38-knocked-down/

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That was unfortunate . Still one in the race .

Ramona
NSW, 4449 posts
3 Jul 2018 8:53AM
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The choices of vessels allowed is just those with long keels of a similar nature to Suhali. After watching the local Westsail 32 trying to sail in light winds I don't think I would want to race one. Same goes for an Endurance 35.
As far as I know the Rustler 36 is still available new. If you bought new you would have to downgrade the rig and sails etc to meet the rules for the race.
www.sailmagazine.com/boats/new-boats-rustler-36

Ramona
NSW, 4449 posts
3 Jul 2018 9:20AM
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Live tracker here.

goldengloberace.com/livetracker/

sydchris
NSW, 151 posts
3 Jul 2018 10:11AM
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Nice pic of the various hull shapes:





Ramona
NSW, 4449 posts
3 Jul 2018 6:30PM
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Thanks for that, great picture! Now to pick the winning Frenchman sailing a Rustler.

MorningBird
NSW, 2007 posts
3 Jul 2018 6:49PM
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Ramona said..
2018 Golden Globe Race approved designs: Westsail 32 ? Tradewind 35 ? Saga 34 ? Saltram 36 ? Vancouver 32 & 34 ? OE 32 ? Eric (sister ship to Suhaili) ? Aries 32 ? Baba 35 ? Biscay 36 ? Bowman 36 ? Cape Dory 36 ? Nicholson 32 MKX-XI ? Rustler 36, Endurance 35, Gaia 36, Hans Christian 33T, Tashiba 36, Cabo Rico 34, Hinckley Pilot 35, Lello 34, Gale Force 34.

Lets have a poll for armchair sailors with a choice of vessel. I would select the Rustler 36 like Susie Goodall and 6 others. I would use the Monitor vane too.


Hans Christian

MorningBird
NSW, 2007 posts
3 Jul 2018 6:50PM
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Ramona said..
The choices of vessels allowed is just those with long keels of a similar nature to Suhali. After watching the local Westsail 32 trying to sail in light winds I don't think I would want to race one. Same goes for an Endurance 35.
As far as I know the Rustler 36 is still available new. If you bought new you would have to downgrade the rig and sails etc to meet the rules for the race.
www.sailmagazine.com/boats/new-boats-rustler-36


Westsail = Wet Snail

garymalmgren
91 posts
3 Jul 2018 5:25PM
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Thanks for the great pic of the boats. My new screen wallpaper. ??

Ramona
NSW, 4449 posts
4 Jul 2018 8:44AM
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MorningBird said..

Ramona said..
2018 Golden Globe Race approved designs: Westsail 32 ? Tradewind 35 ? Saga 34 ? Saltram 36 ? Vancouver 32 & 34 ? OE 32 ? Eric (sister ship to Suhaili) ? Aries 32 ? Baba 35 ? Biscay 36 ? Bowman 36 ? Cape Dory 36 ? Nicholson 32 MKX-XI ? Rustler 36, Endurance 35, Gaia 36, Hans Christian 33T, Tashiba 36, Cabo Rico 34, Hinckley Pilot 35, Lello 34, Gale Force 34.

Lets have a poll for armchair sailors with a choice of vessel. I would select the Rustler 36 like Susie Goodall and 6 others. I would use the Monitor vane too.



Hans Christian


Very funny!
I think the Nicholson 32 may just surprise everyone. The yachts have just got out of the light airs and we will see how they handle the fresher stuff.

MorningBird
NSW, 2007 posts
4 Jul 2018 8:53AM
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Ramona said..

MorningBird said..


Ramona said..
2018 Golden Globe Race approved designs: Westsail 32 ? Tradewind 35 ? Saga 34 ? Saltram 36 ? Vancouver 32 & 34 ? OE 32 ? Eric (sister ship to Suhaili) ? Aries 32 ? Baba 35 ? Biscay 36 ? Bowman 36 ? Cape Dory 36 ? Nicholson 32 MKX-XI ? Rustler 36, Endurance 35, Gaia 36, Hans Christian 33T, Tashiba 36, Cabo Rico 34, Hinckley Pilot 35, Lello 34, Gale Force 34.

Lets have a poll for armchair sailors with a choice of vessel. I would select the Rustler 36 like Susie Goodall and 6 others. I would use the Monitor vane too.




Hans Christian



Very funny!
I think the Nicholson 32 may just surprise everyone. The yachts have just got out of the light airs and we will see how they handle the fresher stuff.


If you are going to race, do it in comfort!

Ramona
NSW, 4449 posts
4 Jul 2018 9:17AM
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MorningBird said..

Ramona said..


MorningBird said..




Hans Christian




Very funny!
I think the Nicholson 32 may just surprise everyone. The yachts have just got out of the light airs and we will see how they handle the fresher stuff.



If you are going to race, do it in comfort!


That's just it. it's a race.

andy59
QLD, 1075 posts
4 Jul 2018 10:18AM
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I tried to enter my S and S 34 they would let me which I thought was a bit rough considering the S and S 34 was a production boat at the time of the first Golden Globe.

boty
QLD, 425 posts
4 Jul 2018 3:30PM
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I tried to enter my S and S 34 they would let me which I thought was a bit rough considering the S and S 34 was a production boat at the time of the first Golden Globe.


it seems they picked the worst boats of the era all the dummed down versions of classic timber ocean racers no ss hestias no lion class no tasman seabirds no ss finistere so many great designs of the era taken out

Ramona
NSW, 4449 posts
4 Jul 2018 5:32PM
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andy59 said..
I tried to enter my S and S 34 they would let me which I thought was a bit rough considering the S and S 34 was a production boat at the time of the first Golden Globe.


The entrant legal boats are all long keelers. The rudder must be hung off the rear edge of the keel.

Jake888
WA, 50 posts
4 Jul 2018 5:26PM
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What an amazing race, definitely an adventure.

Its still early days but places 1 to 4 are all Rustlers, mid pack are Endurances and trailing in the rear are Tradewinds. The point of this race is the skill of the captains and not the tech of the yachts but the results so far show otherwise, and the price points of the yachts reflect this also.

Ramona
NSW, 4449 posts
5 Jul 2018 8:11AM
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Jake888 said..
What an amazing race, definitely an adventure.

Its still early days but places 1 to 4 are all Rustlers, mid pack are Endurances and trailing in the rear are Tradewinds. The point of this race is the skill of the captains and not the tech of the yachts but the results so far show otherwise, and the price points of the yachts reflect this also.


There is only about 9 months to go but the Golden Globe Facebook page is going to be interesting. Comments about the various windvane steering systems and the hanks versus furlers is of great interest to us more casual sailors.

Ramona
NSW, 4449 posts
5 Jul 2018 9:02AM
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This bloke is my pick to do well. I based this on the fact he is sailing a Rustler and is French but it seems he is very experienced as well. Found this on SA.
Philippe P?ch? a 55 years old ex-pro (2 America's cup +2 x Jules Verne records with Bruno Peyron + The Race) confirms his entry with a "Rustler 36" he is re-fitting. He has been living in Perth ever since the America's cup there and runs: www.sailforce.com.au

Gaudian
QLD, 18 posts
5 Jul 2018 10:15AM
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Ramona said..
This bloke is my pick to do well. I based this on the fact he is sailing a Rustler and is French but it seems he is very experienced as well. Found this on SA.
Philippe P?ch? a 55 years old ex-pro (2 America's cup +2 x Jules Verne records with Bruno Peyron + The Race) confirms his entry with a "Rustler 36" he is re-fitting. He has been living in Perth ever since the America's cup there and runs: www.sailforce.com.au


The Rustler looks fantastic. It looks like an oversized folkboat. What a great "race"! This one is really for the love of sailing not like the speed demons of the VOR.

Jolene
886 posts
5 Jul 2018 8:37AM
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Ramona said..
This bloke is my pick to do well. I based this on the fact he is sailing a Rustler and is French but it seems he is very experienced as well. Found this on SA.
Philippe P?ch? a 55 years old ex-pro (2 America's cup +2 x Jules Verne records with Bruno Peyron + The Race) confirms his entry with a "Rustler 36" he is re-fitting. He has been living in Perth ever since the America's cup there and runs: www.sailforce.com.au



Philippe has helped me out a few times with rigging hardware and excellent advise. He is most obliging!

Best of luck to him in the race

Ramona
NSW, 4449 posts
9 Jul 2018 9:02AM
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Interesting video. Good boat, monitor windvane, lazyjacks etc, but a CQR!

Yara
NSW, 745 posts
9 Jul 2018 3:34PM
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Ramona said..
Interesting video. Good boat, monitor windvane, lazyjacks etc, but a CQR!


When you read how the liferaft was ripped off the deck in the earlier post about the loss of the yacht Kelaerin, and then you look at her liferaft mountings, it looks pretty flimsy.

Ramona
NSW, 4449 posts
9 Jul 2018 4:35PM
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Yara said..

Ramona said..
Interesting video. Good boat, monitor windvane, lazyjacks etc, but a CQR!



When you read how the liferaft was ripped off the deck in the earlier post about the loss of the yacht Kelaerin, and then you look at her liferaft mountings, it looks pretty flimsy.


I noticed she has a Jordan drogue nicely packed ready to deploy. Not likely to put herself in the same position.

santanasaga
NSW, 83 posts
11 Jul 2018 11:41AM
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I own a saltram saga 40. The 36 (and 30) were scaled down versions of the 40. They wouldn't let me enter either :(
I believe these boats were drawn from the virtue class boats. My boat is a great offshore design, but not really a racer. Not sure a saltram made it into the field.

Propwalk
91 posts
11 Jul 2018 4:49PM
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I read today that Susie is worried she has not had a chance to shoot a sun sight for servral days due to overcast conditions and closing in on the Canary islands has her concerned.
No GPS or other electronic devices, the old sextant is back in vogue I see.

Bill

Ramona
NSW, 4449 posts
12 Jul 2018 8:28AM
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Facebook has been excellent for updating info. Philippe should be just about to pass through the first gate. Interesting also is the old technology in theory but the sails they are all using are far superior to what was available in 1968. All seem to favour full battened mains and the spinnakers are outstanding. I doubt whether any of the original boats in the 1968 race even carried one let alone kept them flying like these boats do.
One of the competitors has a fixed 3 blade propeller! On a 9 month race this is going to add 14 days to his race compared to the others.
Facebook.
"Looks like Kevin is trying to increase speeds and running downwind with any vane requires some sail balance but that means a bit slower so each sailor has to make the best compromise. He made the decision to sail around the world with a fixed three blade propellor dragging through the water and you have to wonder what he is thinking about that now. If it slows the boat .25 of a knot?? that translates to nearly two weeks of extra sailing to finish the course in 250 days?? "

BlueMoon
531 posts
12 Jul 2018 7:16AM
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Plus the extra chances of snagging kelp or fishing lines around the fixed prop.
Im liking the Norweigan, sailing the smallest boat in the fleet.



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