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nate83
nate83
WA
63 posts
WA, 63 posts
25 Oct 2011 2:48pm
Hi all, can any one recommend a place to get some swaging done, one of my shrouds requires attention. Preferably in Perth, or better yet, Mandurah area?
Cheers in advance!
nate
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
25 Oct 2011 6:26pm
Hi nate83, is the age of the standing rig is unknown ?
If that is the case , my suggestion is to replace the lot . Even if it is only one shroud that is the drama at the moment.

cheers
nate83
nate83
WA
63 posts
WA, 63 posts
27 Oct 2011 3:24pm
Hi SandS, im not too sure of the age of the rigging exactly, but it wouldnt be any older than 5 years. It all looks quite good. Its just that the "T" on the T-Ball swage has cracked, so was going to just replace that one, the others all look good. Cheers dude.
MattM14
MattM14
NSW
190 posts
NSW, 190 posts
27 Oct 2011 7:10pm
I am on the other side of the continent to you so can't give any advice on reliable repairers over your way sorry.

But having just been through the process of replacing my own standing rigging everything I learned or heard from the guy I had do mine and from the very helpful people on this site would suggest that if it is only 5 years old you should be right. General rule is that it should be good for 7-10 years. It's worth checking your insurance as there may be a clause relating to having it replaced at the 7 year mark. If it is not and the mast comes down you may not be covered.

I would certainly be giveing all the remaining pins etc a very close inspection.
nate83
nate83
WA
63 posts
WA, 63 posts
27 Oct 2011 5:33pm
Hi MatM14, that is a very good point mate, i will definitley be looking into that. The rest of the rigging "appears" ok, but it is hard to spot tell tales sometimes. Cheers for the very good advice.

Nathan
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
27 Oct 2011 9:34pm
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frant
frant
VIC
1230 posts
VIC, 1230 posts
28 Oct 2011 7:48am
Nate, Replace the lot. If one has cracked then why would you trust the others? Besides the shrouds should be exactly the same length within a millimetre. If you cut one swage off one shroud will be approx 50mm shorter than the other they are going to be too short if you cut both.
crustysailor
crustysailor
VIC
871 posts
VIC, 871 posts
28 Oct 2011 11:46am
I'm doing the same at the moment.

Rig is off, and all stays will be replaced.

It seems a busy time at the moment, riggers are taking ages to get back with a price.

any recommendations in Melb area?
nate83
nate83
WA
63 posts
WA, 63 posts
28 Oct 2011 7:04pm
Cheers dinsdale, ill give them a ring. I was hoping I didnt have to replace all the stays, as the funds are tight at the moment.

Frant, when you say replace the lot, you mean all the shrouds, on the whole shroud wire and swage fittings?

Cheers guys.

rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
824 posts
TAS, 824 posts
28 Oct 2011 11:12pm
Go see the guys at Boating Hardware, call them on 9337 9900. They are in O'Connor just outside Freo.

I worked there for 4 years and they are a great bunch of guys who support the local fleets and yacht clibs, from Peli's to Offshore.

If one is cracked have a very good look at the others.

Tell them Ben sent you and he said you can get T2 (trade price) :)
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
29 Oct 2011 1:42am
nate83 said...

Frant, when you say replace the lot, you mean all the shrouds, on the whole shroud wire and swage fittings?



I am sure his answer will be yes.

With stainless there is rarely a visible indication of immenent failure.

Most experts will advise replacing even the rigging screws every second time the rigging is replaced if not every time.

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brett221
brett221
QLD
128 posts
QLD, 128 posts
29 Oct 2011 9:37am
rumblefish said...

Go see the guys at Boating Hardware, call them on 9337 9900. They are in O'Connor just outside Freo.

I worked there for 4 years and they are a great bunch of guys who support the local fleets and yacht clibs, from Peli's to Offshore.

If one is cracked have a very good look at the others.

Tell them Ben sent you and he said you can get T2 (trade price) :)


That is a big call Ben, how would you like to be in Chris or the other staffs shoes when they have someone they dont know walk in and say "BEN said I can have the trade price."
How is life going in Tassie?
rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
824 posts
TAS, 824 posts
29 Oct 2011 10:17pm
brett221 said...

rumblefish said...

Go see the guys at Boating Hardware, call them on 9337 9900. They are in O'Connor just outside Freo.

I worked there for 4 years and they are a great bunch of guys who support the local fleets and yacht clibs, from Peli's to Offshore.

If one is cracked have a very good look at the others.

Tell them Ben sent you and he said you can get T2 (trade price) :)


That is a big call Ben, how would you like to be in Chris or the other staffs shoes when they have someone they dont know walk in and say "BEN said I can have the trade price."
How is life going in Tassie?


Ah, Chris is away on holidays!!

All good though, I'm sure anyone that says I sent them would get looked after!!

Tassie life going fantastic!!! Just got 2nd in the Tamar Valley Classis which is a yacht race that inlcudes a runner a cylist doing a leg each too!!
MattM14
MattM14
NSW
190 posts
NSW, 190 posts
3 Nov 2011 6:23pm
Looks like the consensus is that you should just bite the bullet and replace the lot Nathan. Easier for those of us that aren't handing over the cash to say.
When I did my rigging recently I found a rigger that was quite sympathetic to my pauper status and he was happy for me to do as much of the work myself as I could. He assisted me to pull the mast out, then was happy to leave me to remove the old rigging. He cut and swaged the new wires and would have been happy for me to put them back on the mast myself but time pressures meant I used his assistance for that also.
I guess what I am saying is, have a chat to your rigger. You may find that you can redeuce the price of the job down to the materials and the labour time it takes to press the new wires if you can handel the rest yourself.
nate83
nate83
WA
63 posts
WA, 63 posts
9 Nov 2011 9:07am
Just went down to sail power and spoke with Grant, top dude, and he suggested that I at the very least do both shrouds, as it is a fractional rig the are the lower shrouds. Of course he mentioned if at all possible to do the lot that is ideal, but given that the rest of the rigging is fine, i will get by with just replacing the 2 lower shrouds. See how we go eh, cheers for the input all, keep you all posted.
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