SAE 40 Monograde diesel oil near Brisbane?

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Kay1982
Kay1982
WA
276 posts
WA, 276 posts
6 Jan 2021 1:33pm
G'day everyone, does anyone know a place to buy SAE 40 Monograde inboard diesel oil near Brisbane? I spent about 30minutes on the phone today phoneing all the places I could think of but came up empty . Cheers.
lydia
lydia
1945 posts
1945 posts
6 Jan 2021 2:52pm
Can I ask why 40 and not 30
UncleBob
UncleBob
NSW
1317 posts
NSW, 1317 posts
6 Jan 2021 6:02pm
Just use shell rimula, designed for heavy use and maintains oil pressure really well, in my experience.
Kay1982
Kay1982
WA
276 posts
WA, 276 posts
6 Jan 2021 4:34pm
Hey fellas thanks for the replies. For lydia: the engine book recommended both 30 and 40 for some brands but 40 for all brands, if that makes sense. Also I guess its better to be too viscous if I cant get the exact brand recommendation (uneducated guess). I'll post a pic of the actual page it might help explain my poor english.

Thanks UncleBob ill look into the rimula.










Bottom photo (sideways as is standard practice)
Cheers.
lydia
lydia
1945 posts
1945 posts
6 Jan 2021 4:36pm
What engine
ramona will be here shortly only Castrol mono 30 for me
if you find a stash message me
Kay1982
Kay1982
WA
276 posts
WA, 276 posts
6 Jan 2021 4:49pm
The mighty Yanmar 2QM15.
Andrew68
Andrew68
VIC
433 posts
VIC, 433 posts
6 Jan 2021 8:59pm
I'm not sure what the situation is where you are, but in Melbourne, Mariner Engineering sells(or at least last time I changed my oil) genuine Yanmar oil at prices similar to the auto-shops. Its about the only thing that is reasonably priced there.

A
cisco
cisco
QLD
12367 posts
QLD, 12367 posts
6 Jan 2021 10:59pm
Mate.
Go to your local Repco store and I am sure they will have in stock Penrite Mono 30 oil. Best quality oil and the recommended grade for the legendary Yanmar 2QM 15 powerhouse engine. They will have a touch screen upon which you can look up the correct oil for just about any engine you can name.

Give it a try and see if I am correct.
lydia
lydia
1945 posts
1945 posts
7 Jan 2021 3:18am
Like Cisco said, if you can't get the Castrol go Penrite
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7758 posts
NSW, 7758 posts
7 Jan 2021 8:06am
Does not matter what brand. Buy the cheapest 30 or 40-grade mineral mono oil available. If you can't find monograde oil then use a cheap 20-40 multigrade mineral oil for light diesel use.
I'm fairly confident Queensland has tractor dealers and farmers supply shops. You may have to buy 20 litre containers there though.
UncleBob
UncleBob
NSW
1317 posts
NSW, 1317 posts
7 Jan 2021 10:07am
Ramona said..
Does not matter what brand. Buy the cheapest 30 or 40-grade mineral mono oil available. If you can't find monograde oil then use a cheap 20-40 multigrade mineral oil for light diesel use.
I'm fairly confident Queensland has tractor dealers and farmers supply shops. You may have to buy 20 litre containers there though.


Hi, that was the position that I had adopted until I noticed the oil pressure dropping as the engine got hotter, switched to Rimula after discussing situation with a bobcat owner operator, which coincidentally used the same base engine, and oil pressure remains high.
lydia
lydia
1945 posts
1945 posts
7 Jan 2021 7:43am
In a V 8510 Perkins (circa 1974) I had similar problem using the oil recommended by the manual until an old time mechanic pointed out that the oil standards had been changed over time and what was say multi grade 40 in 1974 was slightly different now.
Did the research and problem solved.
Castrol mono 30

Not sure of the truth or otherwise but made sense with on older engine and synthetic oils.
Since then I have run 1973 Perkins, 1965 Gardner and 1983 Ford Lehmans
None of those run hot or at high revs.
jbarnes85
jbarnes85
VIC
297 posts
VIC, 297 posts
7 Jan 2021 11:19am
This stuff is SAE30 and available at Supercheap and I think Bunnings. I used it in my marine gear

www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/penrite-penrite-small-engine-4-stroke-engine-oil-sae-30-1-litre/20077.html
Achernar
Achernar
QLD
398 posts
QLD, 398 posts
7 Jan 2021 12:19pm
jbarnes85 said..
This stuff is SAE30 and available at Supercheap and I think Bunnings. I used it in my marine gear

www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/penrite-penrite-small-engine-4-stroke-engine-oil-sae-30-1-litre/20077.html



That is what I just put in my engine. Found it at SuperCheap in Cannon Hill. The young fella at the helpdesk was a little lost, but it was on the shelf near where he looked.
Seebreasy73
Seebreasy73
QLD
334 posts
QLD, 334 posts
7 Jan 2021 1:31pm
you can easily use the commonly available 15 W 30 or 40 grade diesel engine oils (even Bunnings sells these these day). Viscosity really comes into effect when the outside temperature can be freezing, not an issue in australia. Plus your old engine will be happier with higher viscosity oil anyways. The only thing to look out for is that you should not mix synthetic with traditional oils if you do not want your seals changed soon. I changed the oil on the 2QM every 200 hours though and if I used it a lot in summer even at 150 hours.
Kay1982
Kay1982
WA
276 posts
WA, 276 posts
7 Jan 2021 3:20pm
Hey thanks again for all the input fellas- I found the four stroke SAE 30 at supercheap but when I asked the oil counter guy if it was ok for a diesel he said no (I'm guessing he had no idea if you guys are useing it).
Eventually tracked down the last 20l can of truck mono in Brisbane aparently at Repco this morning- I'll update you all how it goes once I've run it for a bit. Cheers .


Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7758 posts
NSW, 7758 posts
7 Jan 2021 6:57pm
That looks perfect. The only thing with oils in old engines is do not use synthetic oils. That shop assistant is probably not aware that trucks have diesel engines!
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
8 Jan 2021 12:01am
mono 30 is ok for warm weather , but in cold temps its to thick on startup
Seebreasy73
Seebreasy73
QLD
334 posts
QLD, 334 posts
9 Jan 2021 10:55am
no, dont mix petrol oil into a diesel engine. A diesel oil is specifically built for diesel engines and has a higher heat and wear index and also extra additives to prevent sludge build up. It will work in the short term as an emergency solution
Kay1982
Kay1982
WA
276 posts
WA, 276 posts
9 Jan 2021 9:19am
Thanks mate- as a new boatowner I've got a weird version of confirmation bias- if someone agrees with something I say I classify it as a possibility, but if someone tells me not to do something I take it as fact and find a alternative.
Jolene
Jolene
WA
1624 posts
WA, 1624 posts
9 Jan 2021 10:13am
Always best to look at the API spec on the oil container and find out what it means so it can be determined if that particular oil suits your engines requirements
Magpiemike
Magpiemike
69 posts
69 posts
10 Jan 2021 3:26am
Hi all,
have a look at coxeng.co.uk, under oil for yacht engines.
A diesel mech bloke gave me some CAT engine oil for my Bukh DV24. This oil was the ducks guts, non synthetic, of the highest spec and free!!. When I used it plenty of smoke. I couldn't believe it, how could an oil that had such high specs cause this?? Read the above article, got hold of some SAE30 mono, no more smoke. I was killing my engine with with love.

Oils aint oils, Sol

Mike
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
10 Jan 2021 11:43am
awkward customer said..
Hey thanks again for all the input fellas- I found the four stroke SAE 30 at supercheap but when I asked the oil counter guy if it was ok for a diesel he said no (I'm guessing he had no idea if you guys are useing it).
Eventually tracked down the last 20l can of truck mono in Brisbane aparently at Repco this morning- I'll update you all how it goes once I've run it for a bit. Cheers .





That oil is perfect for what you want, it even states that it is suitable for diesel engines, right there under the word "Convoy". Plus the Penrite website confirms it in their blurb regarding this oil just in case they made a typo on their packaging label

www.penriteoil.com.au/products/convoy-mono-truck-30-mineral

It's a very rare time that you find someone in SuperChinese that knows anything as for the most part they are shirtbox salesmen and unfortunately this is a situation found throughout the majority of retail chain outlets.




Donk107
Donk107
TAS
2446 posts
TAS, 2446 posts
10 Jan 2021 11:56am
If you look at the specs of an engine oil, if it is suitable for a Diesel engine it will have a C? rating (the S? is the petrol engine rating)
You would normally look at what viscosity for your climate and C? rating your engine needs CD, CE, CF etc and use a oil that meets or exceeds that spec
if in doubt if you give the oil company tech helpline number a call as the people who answer are pretty knowledgeable
Regards Don
oldtom
oldtom
12 posts
12 posts
10 Jan 2021 6:14pm
awkward customer said..
G'day everyone, does anyone know a place to buy SAE 40 Monograde inboard diesel oil near Brisbane? I spent about 30minutes on the phone today phoneing all the places I could think of but came up empty . Cheers.



awkward customer said..
Hey thanks again for all the input fellas- I found the four stroke SAE 30 at supercheap but when I asked the oil counter guy if it was ok for a diesel he said no (I'm guessing he had no idea if you guys are useing it).
Eventually tracked down the last 20l can of truck mono in Brisbane aparently at Repco this morning- I'll update you all how it goes once I've run it for a bit. Cheers .



that a CF grade you look at the api no yours is CF-2/CF/SG
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