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Donk107
Donk107
TAS
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24 Aug 2015 7:48pm
Hi all

Just wondering if anyone has purchased a sailing watch such as the Ronstan race timer or clear start and what are your thoughts on it www.ronstan.com.au/marine5/range.asp?RnID=425 or the Gill range www.gillmarine.com/au/sailing-accessories/watches.html

I am particularly interested in the countdown timer function for race starts

Also looked at the Garmin Quatix http://sites.garmin.com/en-AU/quatix/ but with no electronics on my boat to interface too I would not be able to use a lot of the functions on it and I wonder if the functions I could use would be worth the cost

Any thoughts would be appreciated

Regards Don
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter
QLD
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25 Aug 2015 7:41am
Hi Donk,
I am interested too. I currently use the countdown timer on a mast mounted tacktick display, and just love it for its ability to improve my starts.
Regards functions, there are two features I use:
You plot either end of the line by pushing the button as you sail past. First feature I find handy is it tells you the favored end on wind shift( this needs wind input, so no good for a watch only of course)
Second feature is time/distance to start line. Tells me if i am going to be early or late by displaying a negative/ positive value in distance or time. This shouldn't need any input other than a good gps function on the watch.
Just thought I'd throw it in there , would be interested to see what others think.
SB
RiffRaff
RiffRaff
WA
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WA, 265 posts
25 Aug 2015 7:02am
I think everyone should be careful answering especially after the icy cold reception this poor fellow got for even suggesting such a thing.
Not the friendliest forum on the net is it.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Pebbles-on-Board/
Donk107
Donk107
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25 Aug 2015 6:39pm
Hi all

Thanks for the replies so far

On the boat i race on i trim the headsail and i am normally responsible for letting the skipper on the helm know how much time we have to go and he steers the boat to cross the line at the correct time and normally our starts are pretty good (he has been doing it for a long time) so a good countdown timer with a syncro function is probably the most important function as sometimes the horn goes off mid tack

I thought about the Garmin with the GPS function and plotting the start line and advising him if we are going to fast or slow but i think it might get confusing and be a distraction to him

I am tending towards one of the Ronstan watches (i like the race timer but the face is massive and i might look like a bit of a dick) so i might go for a clearstart www.ronstan.com.au/marine5/error.asp?admin=&fail=yes as i wouldn't mind wearing it as a everyday watch as well

I would not mind a flash one like Bananabender posted but it is a bit out of my price range

Regards Don
Bananabender
Bananabender
QLD
1610 posts
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25 Aug 2015 8:26pm
Bananabender said..
http://www.aquastar.ch/en/modele_matchraceii.asp
For a quality rugged timepiece
Have a look at the aquastar match race regatta. The ten minute countdown timer gives you a quick visual and not a bad looking watch as well.
I still have The 1970's model as an everyday user . Bought for $600 now selling for between $1500 and $4000 on 'bay



I should have said that the $600 I paid was for an automatic ( mechanical) whereas the aquastars above are app. Aud 250 delivered as they are quartz operated.
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter
QLD
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25 Aug 2015 8:28pm
Hi Donk,
Bugger the look mate,as long as it works. Throw it in your kitbag before going up to the bar.
I agree if your skipper is pretty good at starts, you don't need to worry about too many numbers.
Get something that is easy to read, and has an audible minute and last 10 sec warnings and countdown, so you can have eyes out if needed.
SB


cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
25 Aug 2015 10:53pm

I think the best watches to have on a yacht in passage are 4 hours on, 8 hours off with the first 4 hours of off watch spent dozing in the cockpit keeping the oncoming watch company and in case you are needed and then going below to stir the next oncoming watch. That is for the dark hours for a three watch crew.

During the day of course all watches are expected to spend at least 4 hours up and about, be it morning or afternoon depending on the watch schedule.

Strewth!! I should have read the previous posts to this thread. You are talking about wrist watches not steering watches. Silly me.
Donk107
Donk107
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2446 posts
TAS, 2446 posts
25 Aug 2015 11:31pm
Shaggybaxter said..
Hi Donk,
Bugger the look mate,as long as it works. Throw it in your kitbag before going up to the bar.
I agree if your skipper is pretty good at starts, you don't need to worry about too many numbers.
Get something that is easy to read, and has an audible minute and last 10 sec warnings and countdown, so you can have eyes out if needed.
SB




Hi Shaggy

I still think i might go with the Clear Start as it is a bit more normal watch size compared to the oversize Race Timer and the numbers are still a decent size (16mm on the Race Timer against 13mm on the Clear Start)

I also wonder if the Race Timer might be a bit more prone to getting knocked and damaged due to its large size

Regards Don
cisco
cisco
QLD
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QLD, 12365 posts
25 Aug 2015 11:58pm

You could use one of these watches to set a count down to when it is time to wake the next watch keeper. Then he could not argue that you woke him too early and save you having a brawl in the cabin.
Twohull
Twohull
QLD
149 posts
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26 Aug 2015 12:28am
cisco said..

I think the best watches to have on a yacht in passage are 4 hours on, 8 hours off with the first 4 hours of off watch spent dozing in the cockpit keeping the oncoming watch company and in case you are needed and then going below to stir the next oncoming watch. That is for the dark hours for a three watch crew.

During the day of course all watches are expected to spend at least 4 hours up and about, be it morning or afternoon depending on the watch schedule.

Strewth!! I should have read the previous posts to this thread. You are talking about wrist watches not steering watches. Silly me.


Yeah, cisco you speak nostalgic note of what "watch" in nautital term is. Those, who our succesors are, they have got every pice of nautical experance in their I-Phones. They are not asking us "how too". They just enter fiev digits into wirstwach thingy to estimate their time to cross start line.
Im partner with you: what is the watch on boat? Fancy thingh on your wirst or your obligation to fullfill you duty, to the best of your ability by your own?.
Nuances of the "england lingo", in other lingos "duty" and "chronometer" are easy defined.
cisco
cisco
QLD
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QLD, 12365 posts
26 Aug 2015 3:59am

Gotta keep rubbing that funny bone. There is little enough humour in the world these days.
frant
frant
VIC
1230 posts
VIC, 1230 posts
27 Aug 2015 8:39pm
I used to have a Rolex Submariner in life before divorce!
JayEm
JayEm
NSW
5 posts
NSW, 5 posts
5 Oct 2015 9:39pm
I have thicker skin than that...!

Here's a video of the very nice [free] RaceQs app (nothing to do with me!!) which I can highly recommend.

[can't seem to reduce the embedded size of this video!]



We are in Quambi - I've overlayed the video with the display from my [free] Pebble watch app (StartLine for Pebble fed with data from Allan Edwards' [free] StartLine app). We were closer to the line than it appears due to a configured 5m margin & the fact that my GPS was at the stern (on the helm).

Nice thing is that you need no instruments (though StartLine is capable of picking up a feed from them).

No commercial interest. Just a hobby!!

(Red means you are likely to be over early, Green - late by n seconds.
southace
southace
SA
4803 posts
SA, 4803 posts
5 Oct 2015 9:30pm
RiffRaff said..
I think everyone should be careful answering especially after the icy cold reception this poor fellow got for even suggesting such a thing.
Not the friendliest forum on the net is it.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Pebbles-on-Board/


Yes that was a shame now I have re-read it , it could be a interesting topic! I was going to say 4 hours down 2 up I like that watch !
HG02
HG02
VIC
5814 posts
VIC, 5814 posts
5 Oct 2015 10:39pm
frant said..
I used to have a Rolex Submariner in life before divorce!


Nothing worse than a women's scorn been there done that . I bet you lost more than the watch Frant I know i did
southace
southace
SA
4803 posts
SA, 4803 posts
5 Oct 2015 10:40pm
Nothing wrong with 4 hours off and 2 on if she's from Latvia!
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
6 Oct 2015 1:47am
frant said..
I used to have a Rolex Submariner in life before divorce!



So your divorce was not a settlement. It was a ritual Crucifixion??

The Rolex?? That is just plain bitchiness.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
6 Oct 2015 2:05am

The smartest (not the laziest) Captains I have worked with choose a standing "Evening Watch", 20:00 to 23:59 and tend to have their Second Officer take the Middle Watch and their First Officer take the Morning Watch. It just makes complete sense.
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