Sails from overseas?

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wongaga
wongaga
VIC
663 posts
VIC, 663 posts
19 Mar 2018 4:07pm
Anyone care to share their experience, good or bad, of buying a sail from an overseas loft?
Cheers, Graeme
psychomub
psychomub
448 posts
448 posts
19 Mar 2018 3:20pm
wongaga said..
Anyone care to share their experience, good or bad, of buying a sail from an overseas loft?
Cheers, Graeme


Almost bought a new screecher from overseas as it would have been over a grand cheaper. Decided to buy local in the end.

The question you have to ask is : If the luff of your new sail is 100mm too long,or the luff curve is wrong, who will fix it? That applies to any workmanship issues.

If you use a local sailmaker, he will come down to your boat and take the sail for repair, then deliver it back.
MorningBird
MorningBird
NSW
2711 posts
NSW, 2711 posts
19 Mar 2018 7:40pm
I got my main from Fareast Sails. For the price it is outstanding. Measuring up isn't difficult and the assistance in getting it right is excellent. A few years ago it was $1350 delivered. Best local quote $3200.
If it isn't quite right a local sailmaker will correct it and there is enough competition to get a fair price.
Lazzz
Lazzz
NSW
913 posts
NSW, 913 posts
19 Mar 2018 7:43pm
MorningBird said..
I got my main from Fareast Sails. For the price it is outstanding. Measuring up isn't difficult and the assistance in getting it right is excellent. A few years ago it was $1350 delivered. Best local quote $3200.
If it isn't quite right a local sailmaker will correct it and there is enough competition to get a fair price.


+1 for FarEast Sails - I just got a new main.

Very happy :)
Bananabender
Bananabender
QLD
1610 posts
QLD, 1610 posts
19 Mar 2018 6:57pm
Lazzz said..

MorningBird said..
I got my main from Fareast Sails. For the price it is outstanding. Measuring up isn't difficult and the assistance in getting it right is excellent. A few years ago it was $1350 delivered. Best local quote $3200.
If it isn't quite right a local sailmaker will correct it and there is enough competition to get a fair price.



+1 for FarEast Sails - I just got a new main.

Very happy :)


Same . Main and Jib ordered mid Jan. delivered first week Mar.
madmission
madmission
VIC
234 posts
VIC, 234 posts
19 Mar 2018 8:43pm
psychomub said..

"The question you have to ask is : If the luff of your new sail is 100mm too long,or the luff curve is wrong, who will fix it? That applies to any workmanship issues.
If you use a local sailmaker, he will come down to your boat and take the sail for repair, then deliver it back."

Not necessarily , my experience much different to that had to take it the local sailmaker to vcat to get a refund on a whole wardrobe of sails that were not fit for purpose.
Best thing about being local was that i had redress through our consumer laws.
FreeRadical
FreeRadical
WA
855 posts
WA, 855 posts
19 Mar 2018 9:29pm
Most, if not all, the big loft's sails are made overseas. Very happy with our new Quantum cruising composites. Measured and designed here in WA by Quantum, manufactured overseas with some finishing off back here. Took a bit longer than expected due to a shift in the overseas site, but the measuring was literally millimeter perfect and the end product outstanding. Performance improvement for the boat is unbelievable, and we are still learning. You do pay for this level of product and service, but well worth it in my opinion if you want high performance cruising sails.






oldboyracer
oldboyracer
NSW
292 posts
NSW, 292 posts
20 Mar 2018 6:28am
Main from.far east, im happy
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7756 posts
NSW, 7756 posts
20 Mar 2018 8:00am
FreeRadical said..
Most, if not all, the big loft's sails are made overseas. Very happy with our new Quantum cruising composites. Measured and designed here in WA by Quantum, manufactured overseas with some finishing off back here. Took a bit longer than expected due to a shift in the overseas site, but the measuring was literally millimeter perfect and the end product outstanding. Performance improvement for the boat is unbelievable, and we are still learning. You do pay for this level of product and service, but well worth it in my opinion if you want high performance cruising sails.







I have one of Tony Bull's {Galatea] headsails in a cruising laminate. Tony designed it and it was built in China. Excellent sail and was roughly half the price of a cruising North sail which are also built overseas. Few years old now and still looks new.
Andrew68
Andrew68
VIC
433 posts
VIC, 433 posts
20 Mar 2018 9:47am
psychomub said..

wongaga said..
Anyone care to share their experience, good or bad, of buying a sail from an overseas loft?
Cheers, Graeme



Almost bought a new screecher from overseas as it would have been over a grand cheaper. Decided to buy local in the end.

The question you have to ask is : If the luff of your new sail is 100mm too long,or the luff curve is wrong, who will fix it? That applies to any workmanship issues.

If you use a local sailmaker, he will come down to your boat and take the sail for repair, then deliver it back.


Agreed, you need to be confident measuring to go O/S. I now have two friends who have ordered sails overseas and stuffed up the measurements. They had to go back to the local guy with their tails behind their legs resulting in the sail costing more.

A
cazou34
cazou34
NSW
146 posts
NSW, 146 posts
20 Mar 2018 10:21am
+1 for FES
I would prefer to buy local but cannot afford....
Last year I got a new main delivered 3 weeks after I gave the measurements, fits perfectly, looks good and strong.
I have ordered two new jibs last month and it is taking more time because of chinese new year holidays and the fact that it is sometimes a bit confusing when you have more than one item in order (more ping pong emails and you have to confirm each of the sail layout separately).
(Don't hesitate to bargain their quote...)
Scrubby
Scrubby
QLD
20 posts
QLD, 20 posts
20 Mar 2018 1:41pm
I've had a good result from Hyde sails. Their agents are Australian but sail made in the Philipines. High standard of work. Price is slightly cheaper than best local price but workmanship is superior.
andy59
andy59
QLD
1156 posts
QLD, 1156 posts
20 Mar 2018 2:13pm
I just got a new Genoa from a local sailmaker, very happy with it. One thing a local guy can do is check to see what cloth is on special. I got spectra for virtually the same price as cruise laminate which I thought was a pretty good deal
sirgallivant
sirgallivant
NSW
1531 posts
NSW, 1531 posts
20 Mar 2018 4:14pm
We have to pay for the fallacy of our politics in the last age.
High wages and living standards made the skills and industriousness of our nation go to who knows where. Asia?
So now we feed them with our demands saving money, and make them rich on the fat of our achievements till they decide to come here by force or stealth and eat us alive.
Aren't we stupid?

However, this thread is about sailing, so how about the sail the Aussie loft made for me three years ago is holding up well, while the Asian made crap, allegedly made in Oz, but really made in Crapganisia, looks like Mother Hubbard's washing, falling to bits after three years.

valo
valo
NSW
309 posts
NSW, 309 posts
23 Mar 2018 8:59am
If you have a boat that is in the higher end of the market and money to burn, Go local.
If not, go overseas. Nothing wrong with that. we all buy something from overseas regularly. TV's Cars, Phones, etc......

A mate of mine spent $15k for a jib and main from a Sydney loft. The Tack tore straight out of the sail after a few sails.

Datawiz
Datawiz
VIC
605 posts
VIC, 605 posts
23 Mar 2018 10:37am
Ramona said..

FreeRadical said..
Most, if not all, the big loft's sails are made overseas. Very happy with our new Quantum cruising composites. Measured and designed here in WA by Quantum, manufactured overseas with some finishing off back here. Took a bit longer than expected due to a shift in the overseas site, but the measuring was literally millimeter perfect and the end product outstanding. Performance improvement for the boat is unbelievable, and we are still learning. You do pay for this level of product and service, but well worth it in my opinion if you want high performance cruising sails.







I have one of Tony Bull's {Galatea] headsails in a cruising laminate. Tony designed it and it was built in China. Excellent sail and was roughly half the price of a cruising North sail which are also built overseas. Few years old now and still looks new.


Tony Bull did me a Gennaker, built overseas. Good price & quality - happy.
regards,
Allan
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