Securing the headsail

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LMY
LMY
NSW
203 posts
LMY LMY
NSW, 203 posts
22 Apr 2015 5:39pm
With the recent weather in NSW we have seen a number of boats where the headsail has come loose on the furler. i always worry about the headsail, as it is a possible cause of major damage in bad weather. The minimum damage can be a ruined sail, high end would be destruction of the rig.

For me removing the sail is not really an option so when packing up the boat I always tie a length or rope around the headsail at the clew. One end tied to the clew then around the sail and tie off. Hopefully this will provide some additional security if the furling line was to come loose. The sheets are coiled and tied to the handrail, though this is more about elimination of one spot where the swallows sit and poop!

What do others do to secure the headsail?
MorningBird
MorningBird
NSW
2711 posts
NSW, 2711 posts
22 Apr 2015 6:45pm
Furl it up with 3 or 4 turns of the sheets around the sail, wrap them on the sheet winches and lock them in place. This stops them thrashing around and working the headsail on the furler.

Most importantly, robustly secure the furling line on a cockpit cleat so that it cannot come off. The furling line and sheets are then working against each other to hold the sail tight.


I'll tell you how well it works when I get up to the boat on Saturday.

Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7756 posts
NSW, 7756 posts
22 Apr 2015 7:12pm
I'll second Morningbirds comments. Easiest way to do it right. I still see some vessels that leave the clew triangle hanging out! I try to explain to them the consequences and the noise the local residents have to put up with before the sail shreds itself.
Crusoe
Crusoe
QLD
1197 posts
QLD, 1197 posts
22 Apr 2015 8:03pm
Yeah make sure the head sail is rolled up nice and tight. This may mean letting it out again at the mooring/marina and making a proper job of it. I also remove my sheet ropes (so the sun can't have its evil way with them) and put a bit of old rope on the clew that attaches back to the mast (spinnaker attachment point). And like the guys above, make sure it was around the sail about 4 times when the furling line is pulled tight and cleated off.
LMY
LMY
NSW
203 posts
LMY LMY
NSW, 203 posts
22 Apr 2015 8:14pm
Thanks for the feedback. Does anyone do anything more with the furling line other than ensure it is secure in a cleat? I assume that unwinding of the headsail would only happen if the furler line came uncleated so we are very reliant on tthe cleat. Mine cleats onto a horn cleat, which is a very secure system.

Crusoe
Crusoe
QLD
1197 posts
QLD, 1197 posts
22 Apr 2015 8:20pm
My furling lines go into rope clutches. But is your are using something less secure than maybe a few knots wouldn't go astray. Think of it this way. Would you hang off a cliff by a rope that is secured the same way you are currently securing your furling line. to be sure, to be sure
FreeRadical
FreeRadical
WA
855 posts
WA, 855 posts
22 Apr 2015 7:19pm
Generally use Morning Bird's method day to day; but if leaving the boat for a long while, I add a sail tie as per LMY's method as extra security, I usually remember I've done that when next heading out wondering why it won't unfurl.


SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
22 Apr 2015 9:25pm
LMY said..
With the recent weather in NSW we have seen a number of boats where the headsail has come loose on the furler. i always worry about the headsail, as it is a possible cause of major damage in bad weather. The minimum damage can be a ruined sail, high end would be destruction of the rig.

For me removing the sail is not really an option so when packing up the boat I always tie a length or rope around the headsail at the clew. One end tied to the clew then around the sail and tie off. Hopefully this will provide some additional security if the furling line was to come loose. The sheets are coiled and tied to the handrail, though this is more about elimination of one spot where the swallows sit and poop!

What do others do to secure the headsail?


this is my way as well , .........the extra line around the headsail , but i leave the sheets on .........

MichaelR
MichaelR
NSW
862 posts
NSW, 862 posts
23 Apr 2015 8:26am
After almost losing a headsail, even with a couple of wraps of the sheets and securing the furling line to a cleat, I also add one more step. A bungee cord sail tie. The ones from the chandlers with the plastic knobs on the end. I wrap it around a couple of times at the clew, just as an added bit of security. Sure, you shouldn't need it, but if you lose your furling line, or a sheet for whatever reason, you have an extra fail safe.
Pekeri
Pekeri
VIC
81 posts
VIC, 81 posts
23 Apr 2015 11:17am
I am against trussing up head sails or main sails with cords. Every little movement "jiggle" will cause severe chafe or in cases cut through the sail in a relatively short time. If there is sufficient warning my approach is to remove the sails. On leaving the mainsail on the boom I use slightly slack shock cord ties to keep it folded in place then rely on the cover to keep it in place again taking care not to truss up the cover but tie/clip it on securely.

The best solution for the head sail is a sock: my friend has one and I can't fault it, easy to put on and easy to remove.

See here for an example: sailrite.wordpress.com/tag/jib-sock/ the video is worth while.

A properly secured cover is the only way I know to to avoid this:

Important not to truss the sail too tight or the ties will ct through the material quickly.






All the best and safe sailing.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
23 Apr 2015 2:19pm

This is sounding like a good argument for hanked on head sails.
Yara
Yara
NSW
1322 posts
NSW, 1322 posts
23 Apr 2015 2:48pm
Looking at the stuffing around to fit a sock around a furled sail, you might as well just drop the sail off the furler and stow below. This of course, assumes you have enough time to get to the boat before the storm hits. (And get back to shore!)
MorningBird
MorningBird
NSW
2711 posts
NSW, 2711 posts
23 Apr 2015 5:09pm
In 20 years of boat ownership I have not had a heady come loose. In my view it is only likely to be a problem if you are careless or don't maintain your lines/cleats etc.
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