Standing Rigging Tension

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nate83
nate83
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27 May 2011 1:25pm
Hi lads, i am considering replacing my standing rigging as its been about 4 years since it was last done, and i am starting to see signs of wear, particularly in the running back stays. My query i have is, once i have the stays made up, what is the best way of checking rig tension? Is it worth while purchasing a rig tension gauge, or is there a more affordable, accurate way of monitoring rig tension? Cheers.
Sabalo
Sabalo
WA
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27 May 2011 2:11pm
Four years!! mine would be getting close to thirty years. let me know if you want to sell the old gear.
as for tensioning I like the grab it, give it a shake and go Hhhmmm very thoughtfully
sleek1
sleek1
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27 May 2011 4:47pm
30 years? nice knowing ya!!! Hey Nate good to see our tax payers money wont be needed saving you.
frant
frant
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27 May 2011 6:04pm
nate83 said...

Hi lads, i am considering replacing my standing rigging as its been about 4 years since it was last done, and i am starting to see signs of wear, particularly in the running back stays. My query i have is, once i have the stays made up, what is the best way of checking rig tension? Is it worth while purchasing a rig tension gauge, or is there a more affordable, accurate way of monitoring rig tension? Cheers.


What size wire? I rerigged my Noelex30 with 6mm Dyeform wire earlier this year. Used my old Loos gauge from the Etchells to set up the rig tension. If you search online there is quite a bit of info in setting generic as opposed to class specific rig tensions. Its not terribly difficult with a single spreader rig, bit more comples if you have a double spreader rig or more.
4 years is a pretty frequent replacement for non racing rig?
SandS
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27 May 2011 7:08pm
nate83 said...

Hi lads, i am considering replacing my standing rigging as its been about 4 years since it was last done, and i am starting to see signs of wear, particularly in the running back stays. My query i have is, once i have the stays made up, what is the best way of checking rig tension? Is it worth while purchasing a rig tension gauge, or is there a more affordable, accurate way of monitoring rig tension? Cheers.


Hi nate83, 7-10 years is the usual range suggested . talk to your insurance co and see what they say. when you do change it, do the screws as well , there have been some failures with those a few years back.
interesting question about the tension , i have no idea how to check it!

regards s
Sabalo
Sabalo
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27 May 2011 5:22pm
Hey Sleek1. Fair call thats why I am looking at new rigging and if I need taxpayer dollars to save me on the swan then I am slipping
SandS
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27 May 2011 8:26pm
sorry not trying to high jack ,

but Sabalo , that boat in your avata has masive sail area!

is that the vessel with 30 year old rigging?
Sabalo
Sabalo
WA
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27 May 2011 7:13pm
no SandS thats a Haitian charcoal boat. I would say the rigging is the least of their worries! (some of them have coke banner sails) I reckon they are some of the best sailors around though.
anyway back to rig tension
Ramona
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28 May 2011 8:14am
Do a search for Seldon masts. They have several interesting Pdf files to download, two in particular worth saving are; Seldon handbook mast tuning.
Seldon rigging hints.
nate83
nate83
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28 May 2011 1:12pm
Hi dudes, the rigging has been exposed to a few club races by the previous owner, i have only owned a year, and have noticed a few suss wires, so although it may seem premature i going to play it safe and re do it, then i will at least know when it was 100% done, and to what level. It sits on a swing mooring too, so that doesn't help.
The last few times i have had to drop the mast i have just tightened them up till they have a nice twang, and mast seems square, but i would like to do it right, if there is such a way, most responses seem to be to simply tighten them up till it feels right rather than what a tension gauge suggests. As long as there is no play on the leeward shrouds and the fore stay seems right, cant go wrong i suppose. But if any one has any advice on fine tuning im happy to hear! Cheers
nate83
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28 May 2011 1:17pm
Cheers Ramona, i will have a look now.
Poodle
Poodle
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28 May 2011 1:31pm
If you have a good relationship with a sailmaker, ask them if you can borrow their tension gauge.....
The Razor
The Razor
NSW
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28 May 2011 5:17pm
I suggest a book available at Whitworths called Illustrated Sail and Rig Tuning by Ivar Dedekam.(Fernhurst Books) In my opinion one of the best books on sail tuning around and shows how to tune the rig by measuring the wire lenght/tension.
4 years does sound like a short time before re-rigging. I would say you should get seven years.
Good luck.
SandS
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28 May 2011 9:57pm
Ramona said...

Do a search for Seldon masts. They have several interesting Pdf files to download, two in particular worth saving are; Seldon handbook mast tuning.
Seldon rigging hints.



Thanks Ramona , very handy tips and advice on that website. The 2mt rule method sounds like a winner!

Cheers and good sailing to you.
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