Ted Turner's Law

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scruzin
scruzin
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SA, 564 posts
3 May 2015 8:34pm
Do you experience more mistakes sailing with crew on board than when solo? And more mistakes with more crew?

I do, and apparently so did Ted Turner when skippering for the America's cup.

blog.arribasail.com/2015/05/ted-turners-law.html

SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
3 May 2015 9:52pm

yes winch overrides are a drama with inexperienced crew . But i must say that worst drama ive had was when i was alone ..... fatigue and lack of vision is a huge cause of mistakes !!!!

for every crew has another set of eyes , invaluable in close quarters sailing !!
Donk107
Donk107
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TAS, 2446 posts
3 May 2015 10:14pm

On the the subject of crew It takes a fair while for a group of people to work well together as a crew and learn the idiosyncrasies of the gear on the boat

On the boat I race on we took about a full season before the 5 of us started to work well together and not long after this happened sickness and other commitments ment we lost 2 of the blokes

When we get new crew on the boat the mistakes by all seem to increase perhaps because you are distracted from your job when you are watching them and helping them to learn their roles

Regards Don
scruzin
scruzin
SA
564 posts
SA, 564 posts
4 May 2015 7:04am
Yes, good points. I think a well-coordinated crew that knows how to work to together is invaluable, and mistakes happen a lot less. I don't race regularly, and probably don't practice enough, so my crew tend to have to relearn every time we do. When cruising, I tend to have a lot of newbies each time, and although I don't expect much from most of them, as you say, it's more distracting than when sailing solo.
Crusoe
Crusoe
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QLD, 1197 posts
4 May 2015 8:59am
Does Ted have a different equation for bringing boats into marina berths. I find this is one of the places things go pear shaped real quick with inexperienced crew. Most times I would rather they sat still with their hands in their pockets. Then they can see how it's done. Verbal directions don't work as well no matter how loud you say them.
cisco
cisco
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QLD, 12365 posts
4 May 2015 11:01pm

How about, "If you really want to help, just stay seated where you are!!"
Donk107
Donk107
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TAS, 2446 posts
4 May 2015 11:11pm
Donk107 said..

On the the subject of crew It takes a fair while for a group of people to work well together as a crew and learn the idiosyncrasies of the gear on the boat

On the boat I race on we took about a full season before the 5 of us started to work well together and not long after this happened sickness and other commitments ment we lost 2 of the blokes

When we get new crew on the boat the mistakes by all seem to increase perhaps because you are distracted from your job when you are watching them and helping them to learn their roles

Regards Don




Just thought I would put my original comments in context

Although experienced crew is great , I think that as far as racing goes a reliable learner is probably more valuable than a unreliable experienced person

If someone is prepared to turn up for each race they will soon get the hang of it and you don't have to go chasing crew at the last moment

We all had to start somewhere (I still make lots of stuff ups) and willing and reliable crew are hard to find

Regards Don
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