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Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
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8 May 2020 6:45am
What are they please?





They are about five feet long, one slightly thicker line than the other.


Jolene
Jolene
WA
1624 posts
WA, 1624 posts
8 May 2020 4:59am
They look like harness tethers , l have a couple just like them.
boty
boty
QLD
685 posts
QLD, 685 posts
8 May 2020 7:20am
definitely harness tether as jolene says but no longer compliant for racing as no aus standard
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
8 May 2020 7:20am
Jolene said..
They look like harness tethers , l have a couple just like them.


I will consider using one when I go to the bow
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
8 May 2020 11:44am
Do not use them as harness tethers. Those clip hooks can pop off with just a twist of the line.

Only use this type of locking carbineer hook.

www.ebay.com.au/itm/30KN-Stainless-Steel-Screwgate-Locking-Carabiner-D-Ring-Hook-for-Climbing-Caving/111799074040
troubadour
troubadour
NSW
335 posts
NSW, 335 posts
8 May 2020 1:18pm
Only use this type of clip for your safety harness tether John. Those that you have were outlawed a while ago for use on safety harness tethers. There are a couple of different brands. Buy the whole tether with clips and twin tethers.
EC31
EC31
NSW
490 posts
NSW, 490 posts
8 May 2020 5:32pm
My boat came with 3 of the same. I now use them to lift the dinghy out of the water to the foredeck and have purchased compliant ones for going to the bow.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
8 May 2020 7:35pm
Thanks for all your help
crustysailor
crustysailor
VIC
871 posts
VIC, 871 posts
8 May 2020 8:12pm
what about mooring snubbers/bridle?
Thats what I'd use them for.
The snapshackles would be easy to clip on your anchor chain, or actually, I think they'd be reversed:: you'd shackle the end on to your mooring chain, then snapshackle the other end to your bow cleats.

That would explain why someones made 2, and also why theyd gone to the trouble to tape them.
I bet wouve got 2 bow cleats up front?

If I was going to make up a harness tether, I'd be sewing one out of webbing, not splicing something.


just thinking outside the dingy
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
8 May 2020 10:39pm
crustysailor said..
just thinking outside the dingy


That's a classic.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
9 May 2020 4:28am
crustysailor said..
what about mooring snubbers/bridle?
Thats what I'd use them for.
The snapshackles would be easy to clip on your anchor chain, or actually, I think they'd be reversed:: you'd shackle the end on to your mooring chain, then snapshackle the other end to your bow cleats.

That would explain why someones made 2, and also why theyd gone to the trouble to tape them.
I bet wouve got 2 bow cleats up front?

If I was going to make up a harness tether, I'd be sewing one out of webbing, not splicing something.


just thinking outside the dingy




To the best of my knowledge what is written below is true.
The person I bought the boat off 'loved' his boat.
For all intent and purpose I understand he did all the work on it himself.
He made his own sails, and sailbag. The quality of the bag is of the highest standard I have seen.
The woodwork inside does not have a scratch on it. It has been maintained to a very high standard.
The original owner removed the forward berth and put a full size bath in there.
He also replaced the new 15 HP with a new Nanni 19.
The original owner then decided to sell the 'boat with the bath' but had difficulty as not many buyers were looking for that modification.
After a long time on the market and a big price reduction Col Thomas bought it.
He removed the bath and rebuilt the forward berth to the original design.
There are quite a few things he has done to make sailing better.
The photo shows the line and clip he put on the furler to secure it when not in use.
I think this is an example of that or did it come with the boat?




tarquin1
tarquin1
954 posts
954 posts
9 May 2020 4:46am
The strop on the furler is awsome! The amount of boats I've seen in port in a blow with a flapping/ shredded headsail is unbelievable.
Why not ask the guy who made the strops. Obviously he new what he was doing and everything had its place.
As already said not to be used for harness tethers. Clip it onto jackline and twist around. There is a spot where it unclips. Once you do that you will never use it as a harness.
crustysailor said..
what about mooring snubbers/bridle?
Thats what I'd use them for.
The snapshackles would be easy to clip on your anchor chain, or actually, I think they'd be reversed:: you'd shackle the end on to your mooring chain, then snapshackle the other end to your bow cleats.

That would explain why someones made 2, and also why theyd gone to the trouble to tape them.
I bet wouve got 2 bow cleats up front?

If I was going to make up a harness tether, I'd be sewing one out of webbing, not splicing something.


just thinking outside the dingy



I would not shackle a snubber to the chain as it could be difficult to undo in an emergency.
Never put a metal fitting on a cleat...
Most of the problems with tethers in the old days were with the metal clips. Not the 3 strand. Very few problems with splices as well. 3 tucks is plenty and most people did more. As can be seen in the pics.
nswsailor
nswsailor
NSW
1458 posts
NSW, 1458 posts
9 May 2020 9:30am
tarquin1 said..
The strop on the furler is awsome! The amount of boats I've seen in port in a blow with a flapping/ shredded headsail is unbelievable.
Why not ask the guy who made the strops. Obviously he new what he was doing and everything had its place.
As already said not to be used for harness tethers. Clip it onto jackline and twist around. There is a spot where it unclips. Once you do that you will never use it as a harness.






Just saying but, most furlers that get damage in a storm is because there were not enough turns of the sheets around the sail BUT

Most importantly there was no strop from the clew to a fixed point [on deck?] to prevent the sail sliding up and so allowing the wind to get under the sail resulting in the damage we so often see.

This from my sail maker.
lydia
lydia
1941 posts
1941 posts
9 May 2020 8:04am
Funnily enough we used those until the early 1990s
Then we had webbing tethers which deteriorated over time and broke and now we have to replace them at great costs regularly.
Can never remember one breaking and they were easy to make up a new one.
If you used nylon them good stretch as well.
Another example of how we sometimes go back wards.
Of course if you are not racing there is no requirement to have flash new ones.
The clips are more of a problem though.
Just buy new clips and make up new ones
UncleBob
UncleBob
NSW
1311 posts
NSW, 1311 posts
9 May 2020 6:06pm
Bundeenabuoy said..

crustysailor said..
what about mooring snubbers/bridle?
Thats what I'd use them for.
The snapshackles would be easy to clip on your anchor chain, or actually, I think they'd be reversed:: you'd shackle the end on to your mooring chain, then snapshackle the other end to your bow cleats.

That would explain why someones made 2, and also why theyd gone to the trouble to tape them.
I bet wouve got 2 bow cleats up front?

If I was going to make up a harness tether, I'd be sewing one out of webbing, not splicing something.


just thinking outside the dingy





To the best of my knowledge what is written below is true.
The person I bought the boat off 'loved' his boat.
For all intent and purpose I understand he did all the work on it himself.
He made his own sails, and sailbag. The quality of the bag is of the highest standard I have seen.
The woodwork inside does not have a scratch on it. It has been maintained to a very high standard.
The original owner removed the forward berth and put a full size bath in there.
He also replaced the new 15 HP with a new Nanni 19.
The original owner then decided to sell the 'boat with the bath' but had difficulty as not many buyers were looking for that modification.
After a long time on the market and a big price reduction Col Thomas bought it.
He removed the bath and rebuilt the forward berth to the original design.
There are quite a few things he has done to make sailing better.
The photo shows the line and clip he put on the furler to secure it when not in use.
I think this is an example of that or did it come with the boat?





Perhaps a call to the PO would shed the required light on the questions.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
9 May 2020 9:25pm
UncleBob said..

Bundeenabuoy said..


crustysailor said..
what about mooring snubbers/bridle?
Thats what I'd use them for.
The snapshackles would be easy to clip on your anchor chain, or actually, I think they'd be reversed:: you'd shackle the end on to your mooring chain, then snapshackle the other end to your bow cleats.

That would explain why someones made 2, and also why theyd gone to the trouble to tape them.
I bet wouve got 2 bow cleats up front?

If I was going to make up a harness tether, I'd be sewing one out of webbing, not splicing something.


just thinking outside the dingy






To the best of my knowledge what is written below is true.
The person I bought the boat off 'loved' his boat.
For all intent and purpose I understand he did all the work on it himself.
He made his own sails, and sailbag. The quality of the bag is of the highest standard I have seen.
The woodwork inside does not have a scratch on it. It has been maintained to a very high standard.
The original owner removed the forward berth and put a full size bath in there.
He also replaced the new 15 HP with a new Nanni 19.
The original owner then decided to sell the 'boat with the bath' but had difficulty as not many buyers were looking for that modification.
After a long time on the market and a big price reduction Col Thomas bought it.
He removed the bath and rebuilt the forward berth to the original design.
There are quite a few things he has done to make sailing better.
The photo shows the line and clip he put on the furler to secure it when not in use.
I think this is an example of that or did it come with the boat?





Perhaps a call to the PO would shed the required light on the questions.


He is pretty sick at the moment
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