Transfer of ownership Registered Ship Australia

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SVAphrodite
SVAphrodite
NSW
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NSW, 6 posts
12 Sep 2017 5:34pm
Hi does any one know the process for transferring ownership of a registered Australian Ship?
Toph
Toph
WA
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WA, 1891 posts
12 Sep 2017 4:42pm
Do you have the original bill of sale and did the last owner transfer the registration into their name. If yes then piss easy. Just give AMSA a call. The bloke that deals with that (Patrick) is super easy to deal with..

If like mine the original owner was still the registered owner and a few owners on you are the first to do the right thing and register in your name, then you're in for a world of hurt.

PM if you need and I can give numbers, details and probably even form numbers.
SVAphrodite
SVAphrodite
NSW
6 posts
NSW, 6 posts
12 Sep 2017 7:13pm
Toph said..
Do you have the original bill of sale and did the last owner transfer the registration into their name. If yes then piss easy. Just give AMSA a call. The bloke that deals with that (Patrick) is super easy to deal with..

If like mine the original owner was still the registered owner and a few owners on you are the first to do the right thing and register in your name, then you're in for a world of hurt.

PM if you need and I can give numbers, details and probably even form numbers.


Hi Toph, thanks for your offer to help. I will give them ( Patrick ) a call tomorrow , see how I go. I have a feeling the original owner has passed away ( 5 years ago) and his son is selling the yacht. see how I go.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
12 Sep 2017 11:10pm
You need to do the transfer. If you don't, you don't own the vessel.

In this case of son selling yacht he inherited, it should be simple. Cost may be $200 to $500 but worth it.
Toph
Toph
WA
1891 posts
WA, 1891 posts
12 Sep 2017 9:58pm
I'm not so sure that is correct Cisco.
You can take a boat out of Australian registration in it has no effect on ownership. In fact not even state registration dictates ownership.

SVA, unless you intend to sail overseas, I would just take it off the AU registrary. That's what I ended up doing (hence didn't end up on an Indo rally I was hoping to join).

It may of cost $500 2 years ago, but it costs $1500 to transfer now...

But Cisco is correct in that you need to do the transfer (or take it off).
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
13 Sep 2017 12:40am
Aus registration involves a fair bit of documentation such as ships measurements and builder which if the records are lost can make registration impossible. Aus Reg is valueable.

Generally Aus Reg is required before going over seas to another country. I believe there are concessions on that if say you are sailing to New Caledonia or Fiji for a specified time.
someday
someday
NSW
97 posts
NSW, 97 posts
13 Sep 2017 12:46pm
Toph said..
I'm not so sure that is correct Cisco.
You can take a boat out of Australian registration in it has no effect on ownership. In fact not even state registration dictates ownership.

SVA, unless you intend to sail overseas, I would just take it off the AU registrary. That's what I ended up doing (hence didn't end up on an Indo rally I was hoping to join).

It may of cost $500 2 years ago, but it costs $1500 to transfer now...

But Cisco is correct in that you need to do the transfer (or take it off).


I am thinking that if the Australian registration is still considered to be current then the transfer fee should be item 7 (b) from:

www.amsa.gov.au/vessels-operators/ship-registration/shipping-registration-fees

"7 Lodging documents for registration of transfer or transmission of ownership in relation to:
...
(b) ship permitted to be registered** other than ship referred to in (c): $444"
Dexport
Dexport
303 posts
303 posts
13 Sep 2017 11:03am
Someday, you are right, $444. Just transferred my new boat.
SVAphrodite
SVAphrodite
NSW
6 posts
NSW, 6 posts
13 Sep 2017 4:44pm
I contacted AMSA today. Might be a bit of tracking down paperwork involved, I'm catching up with the seller on the weekend to go through what is needed, if he was the executor of the will it should be easy enough. Cost was $444 to transfer.
Is it work keeping the Australian registration? as I don't think I'll be going offshore for a number of years.
someday
someday
NSW
97 posts
NSW, 97 posts
13 Sep 2017 7:17pm
SVAphrodite said..
Is it work keeping the Australian registration?

I think its is very easy to maintain it in practice, there are some details to be aware of:

You need to fill in a form if you change your address, and post back the certificate by registered post, and they will send you out a new certificate for the new address (there is no fee for the change of address).

If you paint the boat then you need to paint the boat name, home port and registration number in the same places using letters of a certain minimum height and font (described in division 3, section 20 of the Shipping Registration Act 1981).

If you want to change the home port or boat name, then there are forms with fees and of course you would have to change the markings on the boat.

If you change the engine, there is a form for the new engine number.
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