SirJman said..
The problem with you Len is that you say you are here to listen and learn, but you're not willing to accept anyone's guidance. You take the answers to your questions as personal attacks on your intellect.
I am willing to accept guidance (and have accepted heaps) - but I also know the difference between sincere guidance and plain out nastiness.
Many people have provided me with some great advice on this forum, and I gave the appropriate humble thanks.
"Some people" have also been dismissive of me, called me names.
This is causing the people who WERE serious, and treating me fairly to retreat into dark corner.
SirJman said..
If you are serious about sailing, put away the computer, join a club and come back with something to say.
Of course I am serious. I am doing everything I possibly can to learn, including making enquiries to yacht clubs. Why do people keep saying I need to be doing things that I already stated I am doing (many times) in previous threads. One guy even offered to let me come to his boat On Saturday, and I responded with excitement and appreciation. I said I'd even help him fix his boat if he'd allow me to hang around. However,all the arguing and bickering obviously turned him off. The only reason I am still hanging around here is because I can see that it is a relative "few" who are trying to make me out to be insincere, when I am anything BUT insincere. I am being made out like all I want to do is dream on my keyboard. I even made ads on Gumtree asking if people will allow me to come hang out with their boat, and I offered to do work for them in exchange. It annoys me that I have to sit here and IN POINT FORM, try to "explain to you" exactly all the actions I am taking in order to become worthy to beat off the few people who are being unfair, berating me over trivial pettiness.
I am GETTING to all these things. And the fact that I am still very new does NOT mean I have to pack up my keyboard and go elsewhere - which is basically what I am being told to do by a relative FEW. It is mean, it is petty, it is disruptive. Some people have completely ignored my completely genuine attempts at proper conversation and dialogue (which was going very well at one point), but have found HOURS to mock and laugh and call me names and berate me and be generally disruptive and spiteful. Again, I know the difference between sincere helpfulness and plain out spitefulness.
So, I am just asking that people stop making posts dismissing me and basically telling me I wouldn't know what I am talking about so I need to get lost. I am not going to get lost. I am not going to pack up my keyboard. I will go and learn to sail, and I am ON IT. I am looking at $10,000 worth off courses (which I have already researched AND MENTIONED, and linked to). I want to learn about yachting and I am KEEN to learn (and even help people), and this is one of the only forums in Australia where I can see genuine help/knowledge is available - and I don't see why I should have to get lost, just because a few people think I am interrupting their comradery and seafaring stories (nastily pointing out that I don't have any).
I don't want to have THIS conversation. I don't want you to say the things you are saying (above). It is disruptive, UNTRUE, and unnecessary, and completely unhelpful. How about just back off, and stop making me explain myself every second post and just contribute with your "knowledge" when I do ask questions?
There is a small mutual admiration society on this forum, and I am going to get through you so that I can be left alone. I am not going to let you guys make me upset (or push me away). You aren't the boss of the Internet! I am going to remain genuine and serious. As I was from the start. Ok, I don't have a lot of experience. That doesn't give you the right to stand over me as if I am a "nothing" and not even worthy to make another post. That's what you're doing - and it's unfair. So SHOVE OFF!
I am not responding like this for the sake of arguing. I am responding because I am fighting for a place where I can just be left alone to post and learn and make friends with people. There's a few people on this forum purposefully preventing that, for their own petty reasons.