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keensailor
keensailor
NSW
702 posts
NSW, 702 posts
16 Sep 2013 3:01pm
hi
There seems to be lots of brands and types of jackets.
Are cheap ski jackets in the off season a good idea?
We will be doing some offshore sailing and mainly sailing inshore.
Any ideas, I did find this Burke factory outlet at Rydalmere but have not checked it out.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
16 Sep 2013 6:40pm
For winter sailing I wear a ski jacket and overalls. I buy mine from the Salvation op shop, they are normally about $15 for a good jacket. I keep one full set stowed away onboard in case I need a warm dry set of clothes to change into or sleep in. The only down side is the colours and colour scheme of some of these. The set onboard is a lovely lilac colour! The pair I wear are green and gold on white, superb quality made in Japan. Feel a bit like Liberace
when I'm at the boat ramp launching the tender, does not matter at sea.

Aldi have good gear sometimes. I also peruse eBay for those $1500-2000 jackets but they don't appear often.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
16 Sep 2013 6:48pm
The other good place to check out are outdoors and camping shops. I quite often go to these places as I ride motorbikes and a lot of the stuff in bike shops is basic black which I don't like. The camping and outdoors fraternity are obsessed with weight and and effectiveness, the same as what sailors should be doing.
HaveFun
HaveFun
NSW
201 posts
NSW, 201 posts
23 Sep 2013 2:39pm
Stick with the Burke factory Outlet at Rydalmere. The Burke Southerly will cover you when the weather turns. Other brands have all types of different styles for inshore, offshore (and usually at higher prices). Unless you really understand what you are doing and have a specific and dedicated purpose you will otherwise end up with a collection (been there!). I now have the original cheapie that never leaves the wardrobe, a jacket I now use for day sailing and going to the football and the Burke Southerly I now use. It has the pockets in the right places, sufficient cover over the head (wait till a wave breaks over you and you will soon find out) and is waterproof and breathable. I am not knocking the equivalent offshore offerings in other brands only that they are out of my price range and their cheaper styles of equivalent pprice to the Burke, I have found to my chagrin, do not have the same capabilities as the Burke.
keensailor
keensailor
NSW
702 posts
NSW, 702 posts
23 Sep 2013 4:46pm
HaveFun said..

Stick with the Burke factory Outlet at Rydalmere. The Burke Southerly will cover you when the weather turns. Other brands have all types of different styles for inshore, offshore (and usually at higher prices). Unless you really understand what you are doing and have a specific and dedicated purpose you will otherwise end up with a collection (been there!). I now have the original cheapie that never leaves the wardrobe, a jacket I now use for day sailing and going to the football and the Burke Southerly I now use. It has the pockets in the right places, sufficient cover over the head (wait till a wave breaks over you and you will soon find out) and is waterproof and breathable. I am not knocking the equivalent offshore offerings in other brands only that they are out of my price range and their cheaper styles of equivalent pprice to the Burke, I have found to my chagrin, do not have the same capabilities as the Burke.



interesting, i read a good review about the Bourke Southerly so hopefully can get one in my size at Rydalmere. It looks reasonable priced.
FreeRadical
FreeRadical
WA
855 posts
WA, 855 posts
23 Sep 2013 7:17pm
Check out the prices on-line also. There is a Gill distributor/outlet at Brookvale, A few years back I was after the Gill OS1 (really nice kit BTW). Ended up buying it online from a place in Melbourne but actually drove down to Brookvale to pick it up as it was cheaper than the Gill "outlet" price and saved on the postage as well.

It's all about layers. My second best clothing investment is a Sharkskin base layer. It has a thin fleece lining and then some fancy breathable stuff layers, keeps you really warm. Even got the booties for nice warm feet. I originally bought the Sharkskin for sea kayaking; used under a cheapo spray jacket for winter paddling which also works really well. The sharkskin is like an above water wetsuit that breathes, it also dries really quick if you get it soaked.

Next layer is a polar fleece type top that dries quickly; and finally the OS1 outer layer. Nothing better for offshore winter overnight races! I hate being cold.

Around the SOPS cans in summer; I have a Bourke Coastal Jacket and Musto coastal long pants. They spend 99% of their time left in the bag at the dock, but they are well suited for that kind of thing.

If you are looking at ski type gear, ensure you go shell type stuff and simply layer up for warmth. I couldn't imagine anything worse than a wet thick soggy big heavy ski jacket that needs a climate controlled drying room to dry out.

Poodle
Poodle
WA
868 posts
WA, 868 posts
24 Sep 2013 12:26pm
I've always recommended to my crew for day sailing / racing in most parts of Australia, your basic Burke gear (CB10? coastal stuff?) is fine, and very affordable. Layer it up as needed. A few layers of thermals are cheap & very effective.

Burke also do higher level stuff, and your Musto / HL / Gill / etc do superb gear, It does cost, but you will know the difference.

But if on a budget like most sailors, and with 98% of people tackling fairly modest voyages, go the budget gear

Poods
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
24 Sep 2013 2:26pm
The modern ski stuff is the light weight breathable stuff like the 2 grand sailing gear, just cheaper from the op shop. While I have bought numerous wetsuits from the op shop I have never seen yachting there. Brings too much on eBay. The Aldi bike gear is another source.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
2140 posts
NSW, 2140 posts
24 Sep 2013 8:55pm
Ramona said..

The Aldi bike gear is another source.


The Aldi bike gear is rubbish on a bike so I can't recommend it for boat use. And that's the problem with Aldi, some of their stuff is brilliant and quite a bit of it is total rubbish, the only redeeming feature it has is that you have up to sixty days to take it for refund if not happy for any reason.
Sweetchariot
Sweetchariot
NSW
38 posts
NSW, 38 posts
25 Sep 2013 7:28pm
Get the best you can afford. I have Gill Offshore 1 jacket and pants. On a recent trip had to go forard to sort out a prolem with the headsail furler. helmsman said i just disappeared under a wave that came over the bow. Came out of it completely dry inside. Cant recommend them enough.
gyccrewman
gyccrewman
QLD
80 posts
QLD, 80 posts
27 Sep 2013 3:21pm
+1 for layers. Mountaineer's always say cotton kills- as it gets wet, won't dry and you die from hypothermia. So they all like the Polly prop stuff.

For sailing I have tried hiking jacket and ski pants. My pants have a few zips that can let moisture in. Otherwise you want to watch you have enough overlap so you don't get a wet hip.

I'd like to try some sailing kit someday but Geraldton summers you don't that cold. So it comes back to the old budget/application delema
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