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Isbjorn
Isbjorn
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36 posts
7 Apr 2020 4:12pm
Hi all
probably not the best time to be looking for a boat but I'm looking lol. I don't understand when a boat is made by two different companies. The two Defiance 30s here appear to be made by different companies. Are they the same design?
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yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-30-defiance/242417



www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/defiance-30-1972/oag-ad-18617791/
r13
r13
NSW
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r13 r13
NSW, 1721 posts
7 Apr 2020 7:58pm
Probably. The hull and deck moulds presumably changed hands to different companies. Lydia will know who had these moulds over the build life of the Defiance 30.
Isbjorn
Isbjorn
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36 posts
7 Apr 2020 6:02pm
Thank you
SandS
SandS
VIC
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7 Apr 2020 9:16pm
curluw is a later version built in coffs harbour likely in vinalester resin . the molds ended up there somewhere.

the second one is built in melbourne by savage , the original designer, he tweaked an S&S design . these boats sail beautifully !
r13
r13
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r13 r13
NSW, 1721 posts
7 Apr 2020 10:27pm
Excuse me but Savage wasn't the original designer of the Defiance 30. See prior forum entries here - SandS and Lydia contributing. Jack Savage did a similar boat Pajen..................

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/S-S-Defiance-30-Plans-Specifications?page=1
Isbjorn
Isbjorn
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36 posts
8 Apr 2020 4:54am
Ok so if I'm following this correctly you are all saying that the defiance is a model made by various manufacturers?
boty
boty
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8 Apr 2020 7:17am
the original boat designed by s&s was defiance the one owned by lydia built out of cold molded timber by doug booker a masterpiece in design and construction . there are several builders of the grp defiance boats these were also designed by s&s but to an altered design to allow for the heavier form of construction they still retain some of the performance of the original optimized ior design a quite good pocket cruiser racer with reasonable performance and surprising amount of interior space
Ramona
Ramona
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8 Apr 2020 8:14am
Curlew would be worth the extra money.
SandS
SandS
VIC
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8 Apr 2020 8:25pm
r13 said..
Excuse me but Savage wasn't the original designer of the Defiance 30. See prior forum entries here - SandS and Lydia contributing. Jack Savage did a similar boat Pajen..................

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/S-S-Defiance-30-Plans-Specifications?page=1


savage designed and built the first GRP defiance 30 then it went to northern Australia somewhere , some like culew came out of coffs habour lighter weight ant some 2 foot taller rig .
r13
r13
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r13 r13
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8 Apr 2020 10:11pm
philyeomans.com/tag/defiance/
r13
r13
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r13 r13
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8 Apr 2020 10:20pm
www.adelaideboatsales.com.au/boat/237251/sparkman-stephens-defiance-immaculate/

Builder Anything Boating Coffs Harbour............can't find them on google now...............
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