When does an anchor become a mooring?

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Jake888
Jake888
WA
106 posts
WA, 106 posts
12 Dec 2019 1:42pm
So according to my very basic understanding, you can't go around making your own moorings (I'm in WA) but if I went out and bought an anchor 5 sizes too big and plonked it down and left my boat tied up for 6 months, in some areas that's perfectly fine.

So here's my question, at what point can I get a fine for making my own "anchor" and is there an official definition of the difference?
FYI, I have a trailer sailer and over summer want to leave it set up in the water. Where I can very safely anchor is protected from swell and there are no moorings there, so not in anyone's way and sandy bottoms so not destroying any sea life.
woko
woko
NSW
1802 posts
NSW, 1802 posts
12 Dec 2019 5:05pm
I guess if you can lift it, it's an anchor ? I've been tempted myself to drop a well oversized anchor at my summer anchor spot, same deal no other vessels have a reason to anchor there.
Ilenart
Ilenart
WA
250 posts
WA, 250 posts
12 Dec 2019 2:06pm
this would be a good place to start

www.transport.wa.gov.au/imarine/moorings-and-pens.asp
slammin
slammin
QLD
998 posts
QLD, 998 posts
12 Dec 2019 4:11pm
I'll hazard a guess that if ya leave it behind it's a mooring. If you take it with you it's an anchor.
Ilenart
Ilenart
WA
250 posts
WA, 250 posts
12 Dec 2019 2:12pm
and this one

www.transport.wa.gov.au/imarine/anchors.asp
garymalmgren
garymalmgren
1393 posts
1393 posts
12 Dec 2019 2:19pm
You anchor in an anchorage and you moor in a mooring field.

Gary
UncleBob
UncleBob
NSW
1311 posts
NSW, 1311 posts
12 Dec 2019 6:07pm
garymalmgren said..
You anchor in an anchorage and you moor in a mooring field.

Gary


Ahh, but are the two mutually exclusive??
r13
r13
NSW
1721 posts
r13 r13
NSW, 1721 posts
12 Dec 2019 9:52pm
Excellent mooring size report by the Kiwis here fyi in case you were wondering what size mooring block and tackle to put down

www.boprc.govt.nz/media/456922/ocel-swing-mooring-design-report-v2.pdf
Jake888
Jake888
WA
106 posts
WA, 106 posts
14 Dec 2019 1:49pm
So after reading all the DoT articles I still couldn't find anything that gave the definition of an anchor. So I've gone with 2 danforth anchors end to end with a metre of chain between and then 100kg of steel plates on a 10kg pipe where I can slide each plate on and off as the third heavy anchor, followed by about 5m of chain. It's only an 18ft in 1.5m of water and about 20m offshore, so three anchors should hold it.
If needed I could have the whole lot up and out the water and into the boat in about 5mins, you can't do that with a mooring so therefore it must be an anchor. I think the cleats will break before this anchor moves so no need to go any bigger
Ilenart
Ilenart
WA
250 posts
WA, 250 posts
14 Dec 2019 4:56pm
I think the WA authorities will say this is a mooring if you use it for more than a couple of hours or days.

mooring" means any gear (including an anchor or stake) set out in a permanent manner to which a vessel or other floating structure may be secured by a chain, cable, wire or rope;

From the definition in the Mooring Regulations 1998 www.legislation.wa.gov.au/legislation/statutes.nsf/main_mrtitle_1826_homepage.html
Planeray
Planeray
NSW
221 posts
NSW, 221 posts
15 Dec 2019 7:56am
I would still read that as "if you can lift it, it's not permanent"
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
15 Dec 2019 8:19am
If there are no moorings there in your way just use a correctly sized modern anchor that is capable of resetting. A short bit of chain and a decent swivel to the rope. Take it with you in the anchor locker and reset when you return. With a decent swivel the boat will remain anchored and the rope not unravel with the tide and wind changes.
waikikin
waikikin
NSW
51 posts
NSW, 51 posts
15 Dec 2019 10:54am
r13 said..
Excellent mooring size report by the Kiwis here fyi in case you were wondering what size mooring block and tackle to put down

www.boprc.govt.nz/media/456922/ocel-swing-mooring-design-report-v2.pdf



Great link, I've been looking for that having built a block and gear using that about 12 years ago.
Thanks.

Regards from jeff.
Edit 1 to 12.. my keyboard old..
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