Which anchor rope? Nylon,polyester,double braid?

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sirgallivant
sirgallivant
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27 Mar 2016 10:15pm
Just fidgeting with this subject lately and l would like to have a second (third, fourth...) opinion please.

BlueMoon
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27 Mar 2016 8:02pm
Good quality (Donaghys for example) nylon 12mm, nice & stretchy, easy to splice, easy on the hands
nswsailor
nswsailor
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27 Mar 2016 11:08pm
I have two 30m lengths of double braid [W/W 72211]

One is for an extension for the main anchor but have never required more than 30 of chain.
Other is for the stern anchor, also never used.
Ramona
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28 Mar 2016 7:47am
I use double braid. Nylon would be best but the braid falls into the anchor well and there is no need to fiddle about laying it the correct way. When its wet it just lays nicely either way and is unlikely to pick up and tangle. Nylon multi plat would be nice.
BlueMoon
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28 Mar 2016 7:52pm
How do you connect the Dbl Braid to the chain?
rumblefish
rumblefish
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29 Mar 2016 2:19pm
OK, been through this a few times (need to keep a copy!) but here goes.

Firstly don't use braided ropes for anchor or dock lines. If you look closely at the lay of braided ropes it is at 45deg to the line of the rope. This causes chafe (have a look at a marina at all the big boats with their black braided lines and see how fluffed up/chaffed they are). It also causes heat and noise. I have sat against a wharf with a little swell with a braided line running through an S/S hawse and it squeeked all night!!

OK, so in twisted ropes, which the lay of the strands is in line with the line of the rope.....
8 plait is far better than 3 strand because it doesn't untwist but is a bugger to splice. 3-strand is fine though.
I find nylon shrinks over time (when it gets wet/dry) and makes the rope go hard. This means it tangles easier in the locker and is almost impossible to re-splice after a year or so (I've tried), so if you stuff bit of the rope the whole length can be a throw away. Nylon can also get hot, I have known it to break (melt) in hot environments when used as a mooring line that moves a bit in the swell,

My preference is for 8-plait polyester like this http://www.deckhardware.com.au/-categories/rope_cordage/liros_mooring_lines/liros_squareline_pes_01047/
It stays soft, has a nice amount of stretch and grips well in winches.

My 2c, if you want a price on the stuff in the link, let me know. Got lot's of cruising guys using it and they love it!!!
MorningBird
MorningBird
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29 Mar 2016 3:19pm
rumblefish said...
OK, been through this a few times (need to keep a copy!) but here goes.

Firstly don't use braided ropes for anchor or dock lines. If you look closely at the lay of braided ropes it is at 45deg to the line of the rope. This causes chafe (have a look at a marina at all the big boats with their black braided lines and see how fluffed up/chaffed they are). It also causes heat and noise. I have sat against a wharf with a little swell with a braided line running through an S/S hawse and it squeeked all night!!

OK, so in twisted ropes, which the lay of the strands is in line with the line of the rope.....
8 plait is far better than 3 strand because it doesn't untwist but is a bugger to splice. 3-strand is fine though.
I find nylon shrinks over time (when it gets wet/dry) and makes the rope go hard. This means it tangles easier in the locker and is almost impossible to re-splice after a year or so (I've tried), so if you stuff bit of the rope the whole length can be a throw away. Nylon can also get hot, I have known it to break (melt) in hot environments when used as a mooring line that moves a bit in the swell,

My preference is for 8-plait polyester like this http://www.deckhardware.com.au/-categories/rope_cordage/liros_mooring_lines/liros_squareline_pes_01047/
It stays soft, has a nice amount of stretch and grips well in winches.

My 2c, if you want a price on the stuff in the link, let me know. Got lot's of cruising guys using it and they love it!!!

Polyester floats so gets tangled on keels and props if the boat drifts around in calm conditions. I changed to nylon when this happened to me and I realised how dangerous it can be.
nswsailor
nswsailor
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29 Mar 2016 9:00pm
A bit off the subject...

Is that a horse on your yacht Rumblefish?????
LooseChange
LooseChange
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29 Mar 2016 9:18pm
nswsailor said..
A bit off the subject...

Is that a horse on your yacht Rumblefish?????


You sound surprised. Have you not heard of a sea horse?

The equine equivalent of an old sea dog.
rumblefish
rumblefish
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30 Mar 2016 7:50am
nswsailor said..
A bit off the subject...

Is that a horse on your yacht Rumblefish?????


HAHA,

It is a horse on a yacht!!

Not my yacht but the same as, and not my horse but my wife does have one!!!

I suspect it's one of those plastic ones you see outside horsey shops. When I cam across the pic I couldn't resist!!
nswsailor
nswsailor
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30 Mar 2016 11:18am
rumblefish said..

nswsailor said..
A bit off the subject...

Is that a horse on your yacht Rumblefish?????



HAHA,

It is a horse on a yacht!!

Not my yacht but the same as, and not my horse but my wife does have one!!!

I suspect it's one of those plastic ones you see outside horsey shops. When I cam across the pic I couldn't resist!!


WICKED, funny no one else noticed !!!!!!!
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