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N27Vidal
N27Vidal
NSW
7 posts
NSW, 7 posts
27 Jul 2015 10:19pm
Hi all,

i am am looking for a Bimini for my North shore 27 for the aft cockpit, but the back stays will be in the way. Do I have to get a custom made Bimini or is there somewhere I can buy ready to go

Adam
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
27 Jul 2015 11:19pm

Ready made Biminis are readily available and quite cheap. Measure up the height and span you need and go shopping.

You do know how to use a tape measure don't you??
DrRog
DrRog
NSW
608 posts
NSW, 608 posts
28 Jul 2015 2:51am
Cisco, Adam said, "the backstays will be in the way".

If you want to do it cheaper I think it may be possible to buy a standard bimini and, depending on the design, modify it so it has either slits / zippers or reinforced holes which would require you to remove the backstays and thread them through. Not even sure if that makes sense with running backstays as I've never used them. Just trying to be constructive.

There are some blogs on people who've modified their biminis and Sailright have a vid on adding a zipper. I assume if you want the zipper option you'd have to have your bimini arches running fore and aft rather than athwartships; I can't visualise it working otherwise.


slammin
slammin
QLD
998 posts
QLD, 998 posts
28 Jul 2015 7:01am
I have a long boom that has only a foot of clearance to the backstay. So that backstay and the mainsheet are in the way. My solution was to mount the Bimini in just in front of the mainsheet so that it covers the front 3/4s of the cockpit and the stern solar panels mounted on arches cover the helmsman.

I also cut the legs of the Bimini so that it can be reduced in height under sail or the inserts replaced to lift it right up out of the way at other times.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
28 Jul 2015 7:47pm

Living in Queensland makes having cockpit shade an imperative for me. An off the shelf bimini should be the most economical way of doing it.

I an hoping to have an effective one inbetween my back stay and main sheet. This should provide shade for most of the cockpit.



frant
frant
VIC
1230 posts
VIC, 1230 posts
28 Jul 2015 8:06pm
cisco said..

Living in Queensland makes having cockpit shade an imperative for me. An off the shelf bimini should be the most economical way of doing it.

I an hoping to have an effective one inbetween my back stay and main sheet. This should provide shade for most of the cockpit.





Hey Cisco, saw your boat last year on delivery of Blue Lagoon from McKay. Was moored in the little cutting just at the mouth of the river. Nice boat, don't spoil it with a wind anchor if you can avoid it.
HG02
HG02
VIC
5814 posts
VIC, 5814 posts
28 Jul 2015 8:21pm


Heres a Walker H287 ketch with a bimini . Id say its a cut down and he has raised the boom slightly

Meg1122
Meg1122
QLD
285 posts
QLD, 285 posts
28 Jul 2015 8:31pm
Sailed a lot in the tropics and found shade over the cockpit to be a blessing, so much easier to keep cool, less need to cover up in layers and coat ones' self in greasy sun screen that gets all over the cockpit, instruments, winches etc., designed right and kept relatively flat they're going to have very little influence over a yachts performance and if you're going to be cruising miles shades imperative to comfort. Yachts without protection might be okay for day sailing or racing but for cruising comfort I think they're a must, you wouldn't live in the backyard of your house in the blazing sun, why do it on your yacht? (IMHO).
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
28 Jul 2015 8:32pm

^^^I know what you mean.

I think the dodger fits well aesthetically (that is if the clear panels were actually clear ) but as for the bimini I am thinking along the lines of one that is normally folded onto the back stay with a wrap cover and only opened out on really scorching days.

My other concern with "wind anchors" is what I can do to power my fridge with a solar panel and/or wind generator. I do not want a gantry with all sorts of stuff hanging off it on the back of the boat.

I may be able to fit a solar panel of sufficient wattage in front of the dodger over the hatch garage and cabin top.
nswsailor
nswsailor
NSW
1458 posts
NSW, 1458 posts
28 Jul 2015 8:49pm
Don't just set up the bimini as the manufacturer shows it, I actually set mine up back to front to get the best shade.
Angelou
Angelou
NSW
37 posts
NSW, 37 posts
29 Jul 2015 5:48pm
Most off the shelf biminis are designed for runabouts.

I have been eyeing this number:

www.chsmith.com.au/Products/Oceansouth-Sailboat-Bimini.html

Anyone got any thoughts/experience/opinions on this cover?
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
29 Jul 2015 7:44pm
The 25 mm stainless bows are obviously a big plus.

The other thing I like is that the bows are curved which means:-

1. The panels will not collect rain like the flat ones do.

2. I believe it will have less windage than a flat one. (Can't say why but I just think so.

3. The curved shape is definitely more aesthetically pleasing. Looks quality.
Toph
Toph
WA
1890 posts
WA, 1890 posts
29 Jul 2015 8:48pm
2loneswordsmen said..
Most off the shelf biminis are designed for runabouts.

I have been eyeing this number:

www.chsmith.com.au/Products/Oceansouth-Sailboat-Bimini.html

Anyone got any thoughts/experience/opinions on this cover?


Holey hell. At those prices I would seriously be asking for a custom job from an upholstery shop. I would probably consider designing and making my own and getting an upholsterer to do just the fabric. I have spent just under 2k to redo my cruiser (just the fabric so no ss work) but including stratoglass clears all round, zips and press studs.
CoolRunnings
CoolRunnings
NSW
159 posts
NSW, 159 posts
29 Jul 2015 11:04pm
Hi Adam-Being Sydney way, you could try Saint marine for the S/S bows and fittings.(located near Windsor).

They are very good on quality and quite reasonable on price. Problem with generic types is that there will always be compromises on fit, function etc.

Further to that, you would have to arrange separately for the material covering. They may even be able to recommend a contact.

Good luck!
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
30 Jul 2015 1:21am
Toph said..

2loneswordsmen said..
Most off the shelf biminis are designed for runabouts.

I have been eyeing this number:

www.chsmith.com.au/Products/Oceansouth-Sailboat-Bimini.html

Anyone got any thoughts/experience/opinions on this cover?



Holey hell. At those prices I would seriously be asking for a custom job from an upholstery shop. I would probably consider designing and making my own and getting an upholsterer to do just the fabric. I have spent just under 2k to redo my cruiser (just the fabric so no ss work) but including stratoglass clears all round, zips and press studs.


I observed but avoided commenting on prices. Not now that you brought it up.

One could probably buy a bimini off the shelf at his local fishing shop that would last and do the job for 5 years for $500 or less.
Toph
Toph
WA
1890 posts
WA, 1890 posts
29 Jul 2015 11:43pm
^^^ That's what I would've expected-if not still a little steep- for an off the shelf Bimini. I haven't compared quality, but I've seen them at BCF for around the $200 mark.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
30 Jul 2015 9:55am
I'm not a fan of airbrakes but one of the best I have seen is a converted tractor roof on an East Coast 31.


Moulded fibreglass.
samsturdy
samsturdy
NSW
1659 posts
NSW, 1659 posts
30 Jul 2015 10:09am


I bought a stainless steel one through Whitworths for my 28 footer. I got the smallest one and it's plenty big enough.
Cost about $700 I think. Good quality and very much needed for me and the Missus. The way we sail the 'air brake'
aspect is no problem. It fits nicely between backstay and boom and is easily folded back against the backstay.
All the measurements are given before you buy, so you can check for fit.
HG02
HG02
VIC
5814 posts
VIC, 5814 posts
30 Jul 2015 12:38pm
cisco said..
The 25 mm stainless bows are obviously a big plus.

The other thing I like is that the bows are curved which means:-

1. The panels will not collect rain like the flat ones do.

2. I believe it will have less windage than a flat one. (Can't say why but I just think so.

3. The curved shape is definitely more aesthetically pleasing. Looks quality.


3. The curved shape is definitely more aesthetically pleasing. Looks quality. I'm thinking your talking about other curvy things Here Cisco

I'm wondering could some one tell me the wall thickness to use for 25mm tubes for biminis please There's a local stainless steel supplier close by but wasn't sure what wall thickness the same goes for stern rail tubing I'm not sure of what wall thickness to buy as Id like to make a new one for my old boat at some stage
N27Vidal
N27Vidal
NSW
7 posts
NSW, 7 posts
8 Aug 2015 10:30pm
Thanks everyone It looks like it will either be off the shelf and cut for back stay or custom. Happy sailing
lloydyboy53
lloydyboy53
VIC
49 posts
VIC, 49 posts
10 Aug 2015 9:11pm
Hey guy's
I've been thinking about the same thing for a while now and have nearly decided to mount a targa type frame on my pushpit and make it sturdy enough to be able to raise my back-stay attachment points to the top of it. It will also mount my solar panels and have an intergrated roller to carry my mast when the boat is on the trailer.
For you Darksiders I can sail my boat at 100klm's an hour past all the crappy weather and still be grinn'n
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