Yacht timber protection what do you use?

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dkturnbull
dkturnbull
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1 Aug 2011 6:07pm
What products do you use on your timber work. Oil, sealer or varnish. Please explain why you use that method how long it lasts and what brand you use.
whiteout
whiteout
QLD
269 posts
QLD, 269 posts
1 Aug 2011 9:42pm
varnish "Goldspar" works well lasts 5mths in Mackay
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
1 Aug 2011 9:52pm
If it is above deck, seal it with Everdure or Wattyl Timber Preserver (2 pack thinned epoxy resin), then paint it with opaque (not clear) UV stabilised paint.

It might not look a sexy as varnish work but it will give you less grief and less work.

Below deck I use Wattyl Instant Estapol Satin with a lick or two of linseed oil mixed in. This makes the varnish take a bit longer to dry or cure but puts a lovely gloss into the paint.

The makers put directions on the back of the tin and because they made it I generally trust them.

When you have done enough painting you will pick up some little secrets and really the only way to pick them up is to do enough painting.

I am not a big fan of two pack paints and find that I get really good service out of good quality oil based paints. Once you have learnt how to use it you can get a finish that looks like glass using a brush.

Yachts are always getting knocked around and the beauty of oil based paint is that it can be spot repaired.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7758 posts
NSW, 7758 posts
2 Aug 2011 8:32am
dkturnbull said...

What products do you use on your timber work. Oil, sealer or varnish. Please explain why you use that method how long it lasts and what brand you use.


My old yacht came with no interior except for a bulkhead and cabin sole. I built timber furniture out of solid maple and coated it with Wattyl outdoor furniture oil. Just painted it on several coats till the timber would take no more. The finish is like matt varnish and is easy to keep clean, touch up is easy too. My fishing vessel main cabin was the same. Just re coat every couple of years.
My new yacht has the traditional varnish finish over teak. I'm currently scraping it back and revarnishing with Goldspar. It does look brilliant and so it should for the price!
Nearly all the interior is away from direct sun. The tiller will be stripped down to bare teak and outdoor furniture oil used and a cover used.
If its outside try Cisco's method. Oil will work but you would be recoating very often.
MichaelR
MichaelR
NSW
862 posts
NSW, 862 posts
2 Aug 2011 12:29pm
My cabin top rails (teak) and Companionway (no idea what timber) were done with Feast & Watson. So far, they have lasted 12 months in Pittwater.

About to do the toe rails, which are teak as well, but currently very grey!

Michael
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7758 posts
NSW, 7758 posts
2 Aug 2011 6:42pm
MichaelR said...

My cabin top rails (teak) and Companionway (no idea what timber) were done with Feast & Watson. So far, they have lasted 12 months in Pittwater.

About to do the toe rails, which are teak as well, but currently very grey!

Michael


Varnish or oil? I used to always use their varnish years ago but not available locally now.
crustysailor
crustysailor
VIC
871 posts
VIC, 871 posts
3 Aug 2011 12:50pm
Feast watson exterior High Gloss single pack, polyurethane varnish is available via Bunnings.

I'm hooked on the stuff. The gloss you get with even just a single coat is amazing.
It does 'coat' the timber though, and gives a very plastic sealed finish.

Once the gloss dulls (around 12 months)I give it a light sand and try to ensure that it 's not being built up too much with old varnish, and recoat.

Watch the smell, although it is noticably less pungent then it used to be, I think the formula has changed.

On brushes I actually use a 2.5 " long dark red handle brush found again at Bunnings. They are around $2.70, in the bulk bins and the quality does not seem to match up to the price if that makes sense. You get 1 or 2 bristles drop off, after that, it's all good.

MichaelR
MichaelR
NSW
862 posts
NSW, 862 posts
3 Aug 2011 5:09pm


Varnish or oil? I used to always use their varnish years ago but not available locally now.


Ah, sorry, yes Varnish. The Feast & Watson Weatherproof High gloss one from Howmuchisitworths.....

Michael
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
10 Aug 2011 7:56pm
wheni built my schooner 12 years ago I varnished some wood and ply scraps and nailed them to a fence, a yearbefore the varnishing began. best 2 were danish oil ( most expensive)and crommelins exterior varnish(the cheapest). both had best finish , crommelins made in WA and they do a marine grade too. It was also the nicest to work with
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
11 Aug 2011 1:31am
landyacht said...

I varnished some wood and ply scraps and nailed them to a fence, a yearbefore the varnishing began.


Why does that not surprise me??

Karsten
Karsten
NSW
331 posts
NSW, 331 posts
11 Aug 2011 1:47pm
For those inclined to use Water-based paints in the INTERIOR (maybe health reasons, easy cleanup, easy recoat), I have used the following:

1) Cabots CFP Estapol - transparent coat with matt finish; usually used on timber floors (few odours, quick drying, quite hard - meant for foot traffic but I use it on any timber surface I want to inside the cabin).

2) Best water-based paint product I have come across is "Kingcoat" gloss enamel, made by Phoenix Paints in Western Australia for the mining industry.

A form of self cross-linking apparently makes hardness double after a few days. I've used it in the bilge and head areas. They also make a paint-over-rust water-based paint that I have tried on hand trolleys, gates etc. and am now quite keen on - once again easy to apply and recoat. I do not believe these paints will outperform 2-pack or good quality oil based products, but if, for whatever reason, you lean towards water-based paints, I am very satisfied with my results so far (one year and counting).

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