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scaramouche
scaramouche
VIC
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VIC, 190 posts
9 Apr 2015 7:10pm
after sailing my Cavalier 32 now for about 15v months,getting urge for more speed.
Running #3 furling genoa,100%,
too small in lighter winds,good over 20 knots
#1 150% too big any winds>15 knots.
No # 2

thinking of getting a # 2 130% genoa for everyday use,ie sailing Port Philip bay,odd venture into Bass Straight
also do a bit of social racing,with localnclub

Dacron is best for longevity,but stretches
Laminates dont,but are shorter lived,and more expensive
BUT,
price gap is narrowing.

I am getting quotes from local sailmakers of order of $2000 for laminate

Would consider used sails and am looking on ebay etc

Thoughts ?
Experience?

seabird
seabird
QLD
227 posts
QLD, 227 posts
9 Apr 2015 7:24pm
I just got a new 140% Genoa in Tri radial construction using Contender Fibrecon Pro Radial in 7.5oz for my 31 ft yacht from a local sailmaker.

The tri radial construction will reduce stretch and the Fibrecon cloth has been designed for Tri radial sail design.
So you end with a sail that has the longevity of Dacron and reduced stretch similar to laminate.
scaramouche
scaramouche
VIC
190 posts
VIC, 190 posts
12 Apr 2015 8:32pm
Thanks for your advice
seems a good mix of cloth and cut for my mixture of cruising/racing
could you give me an idea on cost?

Sailmaker!
cheers
david




seabird
seabird
QLD
227 posts
QLD, 227 posts
13 Apr 2015 9:35am
The sailmaker I used was on the Gold Coast, I'm not sure where you are.

I emailed 4 local sailmakers and gave them the spec of the sail I was after with the foot and luff lengths.

Prices varied from $2,000 to $2,500 which included a quality UV protection strip as I use it on a furler

Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7756 posts
NSW, 7756 posts
13 Apr 2015 9:38am
I would suggest a call to Tony Bull. He is on this forum and I'm sure will be along shortly. I have one of his radial cut laminates {130%}
scaramouche
scaramouche
VIC
190 posts
VIC, 190 posts
13 Apr 2015 11:30pm
Thanks Seabird
i am in process of doing that

did the new sail make a significant difference to your sailing enjoyment?
scaramouche
scaramouche
VIC
190 posts
VIC, 190 posts
13 Apr 2015 11:35pm
Thanks Ramona
laminate vs Dacron etc
laminates won for you
i am interested in your reasoning there,and experience with the laminate Genoa
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7756 posts
NSW, 7756 posts
14 Apr 2015 9:49am
scaramouche said..
Thanks Ramona
laminate vs Dacron etc
laminates won for you
i am interested in your reasoning there,and experience with the laminate Genoa


I was going for a cruising Dacron but Tony convinced me to use a cruising laminate. The sail is radial cut with a rope luff padding. The quality of the cloth is excellent and the workmanship first class. Sail designed by Tony and built by China sails. Landed on my door was about $1700. that includes numbers and draft lines. Probably just go cross cut for the next one.

This is a short video I made to demonstrate the lazy jacks. Ignore the flapping leech, I realized the adjustment cord had released after I made the video. When rolling the sail the cord sometimes pops out of the jammer.
seabird
seabird
QLD
227 posts
QLD, 227 posts
14 Apr 2015 10:33am
scaramouche said..
Thanks Seabird
i am in process of doing that

did the new sail make a significant difference to your sailing enjoyment?




The major difference is less weather helm when hard on, due to the new sail being flatter than the old bagged out cross cut.

I need to do a few more trips in different conditions to appreciate the sailing gains from the new sail.

I guess I could have got a few more years out of the old sail, but at some stage I would have had to replace it.
I think it helps to reinvigorate your sailing passion by making improvements to your vessel whether they are comfort or performance related.


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