newbie question - mooring costs

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MelbMike
MelbMike
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3 posts
28 May 2012 12:44pm
Hi everyone,

I'm looking to buy a small sail boat (around 22-25 ft) - one that I can sail and stay a few days in. I've never owned a sailboat before, other than my beach cat, so i'll generally be staying in port phillip bay (no overseas voyages for quite a while yet).

Anyways, I understand that boats are generally a hole that sucks up money, and I'm cool with that - gotta spend money to enjoy some things in life :) I'm not particularly wealthy, and am looking for something around the $10,000 - $20,000 price range.

I originally thought that a trailer sailor is my only option to avoid paying ridiculously high mooring fee's to have the boat in the water all year round. I did speak to one bloke who said that he's paying $2000 per year to keep his boat in williamstown, so I'm wondering now what it would cost to have my boat moored somewhere around melbourne without paying $10,000 per year just for mooring? Or should I stick to the trailer sailor idea?

Thanks in advance for your input

Cheers,
Mike
Charriot
Charriot
QLD
880 posts
QLD, 880 posts
28 May 2012 4:35pm
This is my experience, it might help somehow.
For boat 22-25 is far better sailing Westernport.
There are two options Yaringa or Hastings.
Both have similar price list T/ S 23 about $2200.
that's dry storage, don't ask on water, it's ridicules.

/don't get confused for 23 you pay 25-26 because of rudder or outboard
sticking out - you pay actual length /.

Yaringa accepts T/S up to 23
/excluding good boats like my Aquarious see BoatPoint "Sea Eagle"/
Hasting only place to take 23-25 heavy.

Personally I like sailing Westerport, many nice places to stay overnight.
If you have the right boat Yaringa is good too, when you work on
the boat, concrete working area, electricity & water etc.

MelbMike
MelbMike
3 posts
3 posts
28 May 2012 3:21pm
Thanks for your post Charriot. This is probably a dumb question, but with "dry berthing" does that mean just somewhere to park a T/S? Or can you "dry berth" a non-T/S fixed keel boat at that price? If it's just for a T/S on it's own trailer, do they have a tractor or something to take it in/out of the water? Or would I have to do that with my own vehicle? If so, I'll prob. just keep the boat in my back yard :)
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
WA, 3519 posts
28 May 2012 4:24pm
Good thing about dry stand is that you can keep the mast up at the yard saving lot of time and hassels. I keep mine on the trailer at my club and can be in the water sailing in 15 min. For a yacht that size IMO you are far better of with a TS and I had a few yachts!
Charriot
Charriot
QLD
880 posts
QLD, 880 posts
28 May 2012 9:01pm
Mike, it works this way.
Any movement of the boat within marina is provided by marina.
You ring them and the boat is ready in the water, you come late
leave the boat and marina retrieve, wash and store.
You wont to work on your boat, they bring it to working area.
No one has a excess where boats are stored.
Of course, mast up, safe and convenient
/showers, fish cleaning area, surprisingly good marine chandlery/

/ U have to be quick to catch up short sailing window / it is Melbourne for U.

One big advantage 90% trailers are "yard", trailers-just rusty something.
No one cares as long as boat doesn't feel down !!!!
MichaelR
MichaelR
NSW
862 posts
NSW, 862 posts
29 May 2012 1:11pm
I can't vouch for what its like in VIC, but I went though the gamit of trailer or fixed keeler for a year before settling on a Top Hat.

What I was most concerned about is the ease of use. With a trailer sailer you need time to get it in the water, rig and cast off. If its on a stand somewhere and the time to get going is as low as 15 minutes, then that might be a good choice. Then you need to consider the weather your going to sail in, or perhaps get caught in. Some trailer boats will handle a lot, others not so much. Same with keel boats, but there are a lot more of them around for less money just waiting to be sailed.

My criteria was "how long will it take to cast off, and disembark on return from a days sailing?" it needs to be short, and we can cast off in 5 minutes, and disembark in 10. Mainly because ate how we've set up the boat and the mooring position.

My costs are very low $350 per year for the mooring license 70 metres from a public wharf. $40 a year to service the mooring and $1100 a year for the antifoul done professionally. That's just the start of it, but there is a great post here www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/The-REAL-cost-of-ownership/ that will help with what it really costs to own a boat.

Mooring and purchase price are just the start, so make sure you consider the rest in your budget, then let fly and have the time of your life

Michael
MelbMike
MelbMike
3 posts
3 posts
29 May 2012 11:12am
Thanks again for the info guys. T/S at the marina definately sounds like the go.

I don't have a vehicle that's big enough to tow a T/S, so if I can deliver it to the marina with a rental vehicle and avoid having to buy a 4WD that would be terrific. Am I right in assuming that the marina will launch/retrieve my T/S (with their tractor) and I won't have to buy a vehicle to do this myself?

Thanks again for your advice guys, I've been trying to find answers to these basic questions on google but can't find a definitive answer.

Cheers,
Michael
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