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bdt
bdt
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15 Oct 2007 12:33am
what one man cats are sailing in w.a.
HOBIE17
HOBIE17
WA
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18 Oct 2007 6:39pm
only a few h17s down near mandurah, myself at safetybay along with windrush fleet racing at sbyc one nacra 14sq and a couple 16s.
bdt
bdt
WA
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18 Oct 2007 10:45pm
hi hobie 17
i sail 16sq in bunbury but plan to travel a bit this season we race on saturday arvos my old windrush went to safety bay you guys sail on
sundays? if so what time i may come up for a sail ?
cheers brad
HOBIE17
HOBIE17
WA
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19 Oct 2007 4:46pm
hi there, only windrush racing on sundays at the moment, myself and the other boats are only sailing for fun at the moment. but could maybe try organising something, i have contact with some of them.
bdt
bdt
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19 Oct 2007 8:31pm
hi hobie 17
i work shift but when i come back to weekends off i will be keen to go for a sail will post in couple weeks and see if your keen to go for a sail.
when do mandurah sail ?
cheers brad
HOBIE17
HOBIE17
WA
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19 Oct 2007 10:33pm
no worries, not too sure about mandurah, talk to you again.
cheers. jason
Wild Bananas
Wild Bananas
WA
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3 Nov 2007 3:13am
Fella I am in the Mandurah club (MOFSC). We have a great course in Comet Bay but only one cat at present...mine - a restored nacra 5.0 that I am trying to sail respectably. Off the beach racing on Sundays against all classes (420, LW Sharpie, Mirrors etc), Great little club with nothing too serious except perhaps the Easter Regatta.
HOBIE17
HOBIE17
WA
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3 Nov 2007 9:59am
sounds good might have to come down sometime and check it out where abouts is comet bay, im living in r/ham at the moment but moving down port bouvard way sometime after the new year, i know of another 2 h17 in yunderup and a n14sq also at safetybay
bdt
bdt
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3 Nov 2007 4:07pm
hi guys
what time on sundays does racing start. will be keen to come up for a sail and may be able to see if some of the other guys from bunbury are keen to take the nacra road show on the road.
there will be nacra state titles this year and there is talk of the nationals pos being
in w.a. 08/09.
the guys & girls in the class are very social and very helpful to people of all levals.
also looking to find all nacras in w.a. sailing or not
thanks brad.
Wild Bananas
Wild Bananas
WA
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10 Nov 2007 7:15pm
Hi Brad
The Sunday "Off the Beach" (OTB) racing is a all-in-class racing - very laid back and social. We have a few LW Sharpies, some 420's, a couple of Mirrors, an old 470 and my restored Nacra. I usually get done because it's morning sailing but this year it's a mix of morning and afternoon (with Breeze!)...the only reason I got up last week. I finally got an opportunity to dispel the rumour that cats can't point (correcting for apparent wind, that is). Did 1/4 of the tacks and cleaned up.

It's not interclub racing but I will find out how we can welcome some visitors. No other Nacras in the club. In fact no other cats. Comet bay is the open water you enter as you navigate out of the Mandurah Marina...north to Secret Harbour. We put on a grouse Easter Regatta but classes are limited to Oppy's, Lasers, 420's, Javelins, Conteders (and a few more). Mike
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bdt
WA
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10 Nov 2007 9:52pm
hi mike
just go back in county sailed today much to shmbo discust will be able to come up on the 31 dec what time is racing starting on 31 dec it would be good to get acouple of cats will see if any bunbury guys are keen also if jason is keen? thanks brad
HOBIE17
HOBIE17
WA
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11 Nov 2007 9:24pm
hi guys count me in for 31 dec i will put the word out to a few as well. ive been on crew at tcyc in r/ham sailing with a friend on his yvonne, there is around 10 boats every sat arvo, great racing and awesome ride downwind with the assymetrical kite, looking forward to racing the hobie soon. talk soon guys
bdt
bdt
WA
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12 Nov 2007 4:19pm
hi guys i must have been jet lagged when posted last will hopfully be at nationals on 31 dec but will come up for a sail on sunday 2 dec.
what time does racing start?
cheers brad
Yachty Boy
Yachty Boy
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12 Nov 2007 4:20pm
Unfortunatly most of the nacra guys will be at the nationals on the 31 dec, Would be good to see the hobie 17's and the nacra 5.0 come down to Geographe bay yacht club regatta on the Australia day long weekend! Should have a big turn out of cats this year with the yvonnes, hobie 16's, nacra 16sq's, 5.8's, f18's and some tornadeos.

Also if your interested the WA Nacra Association is looking at holding the Nacra state titles on the Koombana Bay March Regatta. It would be a yardstick event open to all financial nacra sailors.

Just something to think about, would be great to see some more cats attending these regattas.

Leigh
Wild Bananas
Wild Bananas
WA
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15 Nov 2007 4:01am
Leigh the Aussie Day long weekend is a distinct possibility. Thanks.

In the meantime I have some qus for anyone who wants to contribute. I want to rig a LW Sharpie jib to the Nacra 5.0...I need some more "pull" on reaches. The Nacra 5.0 has a jib of 3.8m2 and the Sharpie jib is 5m2. The question is: do you think I need to put a spar across between the hulls at the point of the forestay to resist the "pulling hulls together" force exerted by the forestay with the 30% bigger sail?

Second question...more of a prediction I guess: the Nacra 5.0 currently points well...very well in winds 10-15 knots. Would a larger headsail (with a much longer foot) interfere with that?

Thanks Mike
Yachty Boy
Yachty Boy
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15 Nov 2007 3:54pm
Hi Mike,

From the sounds of it your boat has the old wire bridal forestay set up, with the smaller jib? Nacra updated both the 5.0 and 5.8 several years ago and put a solid bridal across the hulls. They found the force exerted by the rig was moving the hulls dramatically; the added support from the solid bridal stopped this movement improving the life of the boats. This also increased the length of the forestay so a new bigger jib was introduced improving performance. To answer your question I would be very careful putting a bigger jib on if you only have the wire bridal.

In response to your second question, I would assume you would find an increase in both speed and height due to the longer foot improving the slot effect between jib and main however i'm not certain. I will have a talk to the manufacture regarding your questions and see what his recommendations are. If you’re looking for more speed down wind, there’s always the spinnaker option with new bridal setup?

I put some pictures of some newer 5.0's in the picture section.

Leigh


Wild Bananas
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WA
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16 Nov 2007 1:12am
Terrific Leigh...thanks for the warning...I will heed it. (Yes I do have that old setup.) I did notice one hull crept about 20mm after one blowy session and have done some backyard engineering to help with that....seems to be working.

On the front crosspiece I'm thinking of a 50mm Ally tube belted and drilled at both ends with a bolt through the swaged eye that shackles to each hull. I can increase the length of the forestay in time, although I doubt 50mm will hold the force of the forestay...this is just a spreader at present.

I'm going to have to get a bit more smart with such a spar if I'm going to hang an 'assy' off it...probably some properly hull mounts for it...no doubt I will get some ideas from your pics, which I thank you for.

Thanks again
Mike
Infusion
Infusion
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19 Nov 2007 1:23pm
Wild Bananas
I have been reading your posts with interest.
Good to see a keen nacra racer.
To help with the rigging issue if you place the rollers right at the back when righting the mast the rear guy walks the mast forward and uses the roller axel as a step to step up on to the boat with. Also slopes the boat nose down and helps the mast pop forward when up.

2nd issue I wouldnt put any bar across the boat that wasnt designed for the task.
The proper bridal foil is tempered aluminium and has a wire and post support to take the load. little load is placed on the actual cross bar.

e.mail me at goosemarine.net.au if you want any further info on 5.0 upgrades.
I would hate to see you damage the boat. As yachty boy has said a kite may be your best option.

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