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places to pull up and eat with a boat in sydney harbour

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Created by deeceem 3 months ago, 15 Jul 2019
deeceem
NSW, 5 posts
15 Jul 2019 11:04AM
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Hi All

I just had a wander around Blackwattle Bay and saw a couple of cafes/restaurants with wharfs nearby, and was wondering if there was a list or suggestions about places where we could tie up our motor boat and safely get lunch, preferable while able to keep an eye on things.

thanks!

david

Insomniac
NSW, 19 posts
15 Jul 2019 11:15AM
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Cockle Bay Marina...will cost you, depending on size of boat, $40 for up to 3 hours. You can stay longer - for pretty well as long as you want ..over night is something in the region of $170. Yes v .expensive but its in the heart of Sydney CBD. Usually can just rock up , except on busy weekends / holidays. Nicks Restaurant will bring food to your boat. Depending on your size of boat, you will need to consider Pyrmont Bridge opening hours ( 10am and 3pm ??? weekends only -otherwise pay $110 from memory for a bridge opening). It can gets pretty rowdy / ugly down there (though not so bad outside of summer) when crowded..besides who's got the biggest boat, those stink boat owners love proving who's got the loudest doof doof music. Turn around and go home if you see any Riviera owners of "Middle Eastern appearance".

Wollemi
NSW, 309 posts
15 Jul 2019 11:20AM
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I do not know how big your motor-boat is., but have often seen people idle their motor boats on to the beach at Watsons Bay. Why do you need to 'keep an eye on things' ? - I have often parked my $3000 sea-kayak at Manly Cove and walked through The Corso to look at the ocean.

twodogs1969
NSW, 923 posts
15 Jul 2019 12:47PM
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Doyle's have a free mooring with a dinghy

Planeray
NSW, 150 posts
15 Jul 2019 12:55PM
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twodogs1969 said..
Doyle's have a free mooring with a dinghy


How's that work? Call them beforehand and they book you in or something?

I know there's a courtesy mooring in that bay too.

MichaelR
NSW, 755 posts
15 Jul 2019 1:30PM
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Echo on the Marina in Roseville, you can anchor out a bit near Roseville bridge and row in, it's quiet enough that some people stay overnight up there. OI there may be space on a berth if you call ahead.

Middle Harbour Yacht club and the other restaurants around the Spit sometimes have a space on their jettys.

MorningBird
NSW, 2239 posts
15 Jul 2019 1:38PM
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Birkenhead.

twodogs1969
NSW, 923 posts
15 Jul 2019 2:04PM
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Planeray said..

twodogs1969 said..
Doyle's have a free mooring with a dinghy



How's that work? Call them beforehand and they book you in or something?

I know there's a courtesy mooring in that bay too.


First in best dressed

Chris249
268 posts
15 Jul 2019 12:29PM
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Clifton Gardens. There's a cafe and restaurant ashore.

Chris249
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15 Jul 2019 12:29PM
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Insomniac said..
Turn around and go home if you see any Riviera owners of "Middle Eastern appearance".


Do we really need blatant racism here?

Insomniac
NSW, 19 posts
15 Jul 2019 2:37PM
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Having been there many times, I'll stick to that statement... a generalisation yes, and in some instances unfair but in most instances true at that particular location.

NowandZen
WA, 346 posts
15 Jul 2019 1:55PM
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Blackwattle Bay next to Darling Harbour.
Free anchoring, protected waters, right in the CBD, Pub 100m from shore and best of all, The Fish Markets!!

LooseChange
NSW, 2009 posts
15 Jul 2019 5:07PM
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This may help, bear in mind it is not complete and not all venues will allow to access them by boat.

www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en_US&mid=1R-nRFi2lQirvXrVXWNc_U4wdcqQ&ll=-33.83670945150268%2C151.20647200000008&z=13

tired
37 posts
15 Jul 2019 4:00PM
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Chris249 said..

Insomniac said..
Turn around and go home if you see any Riviera owners of "Middle Eastern appearance".



Do we really need blatant racism here?


Don't see any blatant racism at all

The poster must know stuff,

twodogs1969
NSW, 923 posts
15 Jul 2019 6:14PM
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Another option is to try Zulu waterways

twodogs1969
NSW, 923 posts
15 Jul 2019 6:14PM
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Another option is to try Zulu waterways

Chris249
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15 Jul 2019 4:57PM
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tired said..


Chris249 said..



Insomniac said..
Turn around and go home if you see any Riviera owners of "Middle Eastern appearance".





Do we really need blatant racism here?




Don't see any blatant racism at all

The poster must know stuff,



If people said "stay away froim anglo-saxon Australian sailors because they are ****ing ****s" would you say you see no racism? Saying basically "stay away from people who come from certain races" is racism.

tired
37 posts
15 Jul 2019 5:13PM
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I don't believe there was any racism...blatant or otherwise...in what was posted,

He said it was true....that's good enough for me

I get it that you think it is racist purely because a region is being identified.

Trek
NSW, 864 posts
15 Jul 2019 7:20PM
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I love how the politically correct squad scream racism to deflect observation of actual facts. Races, with exceptions, follow their culture. I don't care for races that support the appalling Human Rights abuses that occur in Middle Eastern countries or those politically correct individuals who won't stand up for our culture of law and decency. Human Rights abuses - as a field partner of a medical charity - I can quote hundreds. But funny thing, not in western countries. I can easily draw a factual conclusion that standards of Human Rights are appallingly lower in Middle Eastern countries. If you are a journalist you can even be murdered in a Middle Eastern country in a Turkish embassy with no consequences!!

How does that flow down to us on boats, when individuals who's historic upbringing has limited concern for Human Rights and insomniacs comment?

My experience of staying on the moorings at the zoo last year was out of 4 occasions 3 were nightmares. Rivs Scarabs and jet skis ripping past us, yelling, loud doof doof music and beer bottles thrown into the water. The forth they weren't there. Guess who was there the three nightmare nights. Boats full of people of Middle Eastern appearance. That's the facts of 4 stays on the moorings at the zoo. 75 percent ruined by those people. Statistics don't lie.

Insomniac, I believe you and won't try to shut you down or defend their bad behaviour by screaming racism.

Guitz
VIC, 435 posts
15 Jul 2019 7:29PM
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Funny this should come up now. I was checking out Pitwater and the Hawksbury on sat maps on Sunday and found this place that looks perfect for a stop off and meal. Boat is the only way to get there. Hope its not too exclusive up market. I saw the Angels did a live show a while back.
PETE'S BITE:

www.peatsbite.com.au/

Sectorsteve
NSW, 2170 posts
15 Jul 2019 8:12PM
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Doyles, watsons bay. Stern to at the wharf. climb up the ladder...

twodogs1969
NSW, 923 posts
15 Jul 2019 8:29PM
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Trek said..
I love how the politically correct squad scream racism to deflect observation of actual facts. Races, with exceptions, follow their culture. I don't care for races that support the appalling Human Rights abuses that occur in Middle Eastern countries or those politically correct individuals who won't stand up for our culture of law and decency. Human Rights abuses - as a field partner of a medical charity - I can quote hundreds. But funny thing, not in western countries. I can easily draw a factual conclusion that standards of Human Rights are appallingly lower in Middle Eastern countries. If you are a journalist you can even be murdered in a Middle Eastern country in a Turkish embassy with no consequences!!

How does that flow down to us on boats, when individuals who's historic upbringing has limited concern for Human Rights and insomniacs comment?

My experience of staying on the moorings at the zoo last year was out of 4 occasions 3 were nightmares. Rivs Scarabs and jet skis ripping past us, yelling, loud doof doof music and beer bottles thrown into the water. The forth they weren't there. Guess who was there the three nightmare nights. Boats full of people of Middle Eastern appearance. That's the facts of 4 stays on the moorings at the zoo. 75 percent ruined by those people. Statistics don't lie.

Insomniac, I believe you and won't try to shut you down or defend their bad behaviour by screaming racism.


Jet ski are not allowed on the harbour so would be hard to be at the Zoo.

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 650 posts
15 Jul 2019 8:32PM
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Insomniac said..
Cockle Bay Marina...will cost you, depending on size of boat, $40 for up to 3 hours. You can stay longer - for pretty well as long as you want ..over night is something in the region of $170. Yes v .expensive but its in the heart of Sydney CBD. Usually can just rock up , except on busy weekends / holidays. Nicks Restaurant will bring food to your boat. Depending on your size of boat, you will need to consider Pyrmont Bridge opening hours ( 10am and 3pm ??? weekends only -otherwise pay $110 from memory for a bridge opening). It can gets pretty rowdy / ugly down there (though not so bad outside of summer) when crowded..besides who's got the biggest boat, those stink boat owners love proving who's got the loudest doof doof music. Turn around and go home if you see any Riviera owners of "Middle Eastern appearance".


I do not like to stereotype any group.
What do you mean 'Middle Eastern appearance'

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 650 posts
15 Jul 2019 8:45PM
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Guitz said..
Funny this should come up now. I was checking out Pitwater and the Hawksbury on sat maps on Sunday and found this place that looks perfect for a stop off and meal. Boat is the only way to get there. Hope its not too exclusive up market. I saw the Angels did a live show a while back.
PETE'S BITE:

www.peatsbite.com.au/


I just looked the menu.
A seven course meal is $160

Guitz
VIC, 435 posts
15 Jul 2019 8:46PM
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Bundeenabuoy said..



I do not like to stereotype any group.
What do you mean 'Middle Eastern appearance'



....you know.... like Jesus!

Chris249
268 posts
15 Jul 2019 6:51PM
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Trek said..
I love how the politically correct squad scream racism to deflect observation of actual facts. Races, with exceptions, follow their culture. I don't care for races that support the appalling Human Rights abuses that occur in Middle Eastern countries or those politically correct individuals who won't stand up for our culture of law and decency. Human Rights abuses - as a field partner of a medical charity - I can quote hundreds. But funny thing, not in western countries. I can easily draw a factual conclusion that standards of Human Rights are appallingly lower in Middle Eastern countries. If you are a journalist you can even be murdered in a Middle Eastern country in a Turkish embassy with no consequences!!

How does that flow down to us on boats, when individuals who's historic upbringing has limited concern for Human Rights and insomniacs comment?

My experience of staying on the moorings at the zoo last year was out of 4 occasions 3 were nightmares. Rivs Scarabs and jet skis ripping past us, yelling, loud doof doof music and beer bottles thrown into the water. The forth they weren't there. Guess who was there the three nightmare nights. Boats full of people of Middle Eastern appearance. That's the facts of 4 stays on the moorings at the zoo. 75 percent ruined by those people. Statistics don't lie.

Insomniac, I believe you and won't try to shut you down or defend their bad behaviour by screaming racism.





Funnily enough, people from your neck of the woods can often be very touchy when anyone stereotypes the locals. So do people from many other areas - but while they hate being stereotyped themselves, they don't mind stereotyping others.

When I sailed yachts around your neck of the woods I saw a fair bit of boganism and bad sportsmanship* as an observation of actual fact, but I don't stereotype you all as a bunch of redneck cheats.

I wasn't defending anyone's bad behaviour and no reasonable literate person could come to that conclusion from my post. I was just objecting to racism. Sorry to be so blunt, but since you think it's reasonable to insult people you shouldn't be offended.


* I also saw lots of great people, but the point is that you can't abuse an entire group because of the bad behaviour of a few.

Trek
NSW, 864 posts
15 Jul 2019 9:08PM
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twodogs1969 said..


Trek said..
I love how the politically correct squad scream racism to deflect observation of actual facts. Races, with exceptions, follow their culture. I don't care for races that support the appalling Human Rights abuses that occur in Middle Eastern countries or those politically correct individuals who won't stand up for our culture of law and decency. Human Rights abuses - as a field partner of a medical charity - I can quote hundreds. But funny thing, not in western countries. I can easily draw a factual conclusion that standards of Human Rights are appallingly lower in Middle Eastern countries. If you are a journalist you can even be murdered in a Middle Eastern country in a Turkish embassy with no consequences!!

How does that flow down to us on boats, when individuals who's historic upbringing has limited concern for Human Rights and insomniacs comment?

My experience of staying on the moorings at the zoo last year was out of 4 occasions 3 were nightmares. Rivs Scarabs and jet skis ripping past us, yelling, loud doof doof music and beer bottles thrown into the water. The forth they weren't there. Guess who was there the three nightmare nights. Boats full of people of Middle Eastern appearance. That's the facts of 4 stays on the moorings at the zoo. 75 percent ruined by those people. Statistics don't lie.

Insomniac, I believe you and won't try to shut you down or defend their bad behaviour by screaming racism.




Jet ski are not allowed on the harbour so would be hard to be at the Zoo.



That's exactly what I mean. They had a jet ski launched off one of their boats and couldn't care less about the rules.

Trek
NSW, 864 posts
15 Jul 2019 9:10PM
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Trek said..
I love how the politically correct squad scream racism to deflect observation of actual facts. Races, with exceptions, follow their culture. I don't care for races that support the appalling Human Rights abuses that occur in Middle Eastern countries or those politically correct individuals who won't stand up for our culture of law and decency. Human Rights abuses - as a field partner of a medical charity - I can quote hundreds. But funny thing, not in western countries. I can easily draw a factual conclusion that standards of Human Rights are appallingly lower in Middle Eastern countries. If you are a journalist you can even be murdered in a Middle Eastern country in a Turkish embassy with no consequences!!

How does that flow down to us on boats, when individuals who's historic upbringing has limited concern for Human Rights and insomniacs comment?

My experience of staying on the moorings at the zoo last year was out of 4 occasions 3 were nightmares. Rivs Scarabs and jet skis ripping past us, yelling, loud doof doof music and beer bottles thrown into the water. The forth they weren't there. Guess who was there the three nightmare nights. Boats full of people of Middle Eastern appearance. That's the facts of 4 stays on the moorings at the zoo. 75 percent ruined by those people. Statistics don't lie.

Insomniac, I believe you and won't try to shut you down or defend their bad behaviour by screaming racism.






Funnily enough, people from your neck of the woods can often be very touchy when anyone stereotypes the locals. So do people from many other areas - but while they hate being stereotyped themselves, they don't mind stereotyping others.

When I sailed yachts around your neck of the woods I saw a fair bit of boganism and bad sportsmanship*, so if I took your approach I would call people like you redneck cheats. Would you like that? If you don't like being stereotyped then why should others be stereotyped?

I wasn't defending anyone's bad behaviour and no reasonable literate person could come to that conclusion from my post. I was just objecting to racism. Sorry to be so blunt, but since you think it's reasonable to insult people you shouldn't be offended.


* I also saw lots of great people, but the point is that you can't abuse an entire group because of the bad behaviour of a few.



That's true. Often a small number spoils the reputation of the large group. In this case I think it's the opposite. Theres a minority trying to bring about decent behaviour but they are fighting losing battle. Im not offended. If something's true it's true. Bad sportsmanship should get called out. If you mean Sydney I agree. There's even sledging between boats in a race.

Chris249
268 posts
15 Jul 2019 7:19PM
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How do you know it's a minority? And even if the good members of that group are a minority, how are those good people going to feel if they are stereotyped?

This is not like calling out bad sportsmanship, which is normally done at an individual level. This is a label being applied to all members of a large group. It's as bad as saying that you are a cheat because some people think that the majority of people who have raced are bad sports. They may also see you as being more likely to kill and rape, because you come from an area with a higher than usual rate of such crimes. All that sort of stereotyping seems to be far less positive than just treating individuals as individuals. But enough of this, it's not going to change anyone's mind.

cisco
QLD, 11306 posts
15 Jul 2019 10:13PM
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I would suggest any protected anchorage where there are no people of a "I don't give a sh!t about anybody else appearance".

Sectorsteve
NSW, 2170 posts
15 Jul 2019 11:13PM
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Wollemi said..
I do not know how big your motor-boat is., but have often seen people idle their motor boats on to the beach at Watsons Bay. Why do you need to 'keep an eye on things' ? - I have often parked my $3000 sea-kayak at Manly Cove and walked through The Corso to look at the ocean.



I had my dinghy on the beach upside down and some kid decided to bounce all over it while his mum watched, chatted on the phone. I had to tell him to get off while she said "oh sorry"
Pays to keep an eye if you can and at Watson's bay you can. I've always kept my dinghy on the beach at manly. Sometimes for hours.



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