props, fabric and stove

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phylos
phylos
NSW
20 posts
NSW, 20 posts
10 Mar 2012 8:29pm
Having now acquired an Adams 31 the work and customising begins. Having just antifouled the little girl I noticed that the edges of the 3 blade prop are showing signs of ware, so when I next antifoul it maybe time to change it before it loses it's balance. Suggestions on where to source, type, and number of blades to get, stick with 3 or go 2 or 4??

The fabric has well and truly gone, stained and holed, though the foam is still good and firm. Any ideas on type of fabric? as it needs to do both, breath and be easy to clean.

Stove.... LPG or metho ???

SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
10 Mar 2012 9:23pm
Props , have a look at gori for folding and Seahawk for feathering .
Charriot
Charriot
QLD
880 posts
QLD, 880 posts
10 Mar 2012 9:10pm
What about big Sunday market for fabric. I wouldn't worry too much about prop. unless has band-cracks-chipped. Just make it smooth.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
11 Mar 2012 8:31am
Few months back I stitched up a full set of covers. I used Clark Rubbers marine grade vinyl in a sky blue colour. Its UV resistant. Its very soft to touch, sews well. Its about $22 a metre. I used the same in my fishing boat and lasted twenty years of deckhand abuse.

Think about a folding prop. Extra half knot when sailing but a lot slower motoring and they have to be kept clean.
rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
824 posts
TAS, 824 posts
11 Mar 2012 11:55am
OK, I'll reply to the stove question.

LPG -
Pros;
- Instant and very good heat aswell as an oven if you want one
- Stoves last for a long time
- No need for marine bottles, just exchange @ a servo

Cons;
- Expensive to purchase and install
- Gas lines have to be installed by a professional and it can be hard to find one who wants to do work on a yacht
- Bottle takes up alot of room

Metho-
Pros;
- No bottle, no installation

Cons;
- Filling the cannister is no fun in a seaway, although Dometic/Origo have a system where you take the cannister out of the stove to fill outside.
- Parts need replacing more often like the wick/burning material
- Can be slower to heat up than gas

Personally I would always go gas but have used the Dometic/Origo one and they boil a kettle nearly as quick as gas and can be gimballed. Here they are www.dometic.com/en-us/us
Karsten
Karsten
NSW
331 posts
NSW, 331 posts
11 Mar 2012 11:53pm
Great post Rumblefish, very pertinent information.

MattM14
MattM14
NSW
190 posts
NSW, 190 posts
12 Mar 2012 11:42am
Depends what you are intending to use the stove (and possibly oven) for.

If it is day sailing with the occasional overnight or long weekend then a metho stove will suffice. But if you are looking at coastal cruising or even passage making then you might want the additional cullinary options that having an oven provides.

Personally I have only ever had a metho stove and it has well and truly been adequate but then it hasn't had a very heavy work load either.
Poodle
Poodle
WA
868 posts
WA, 868 posts
12 Mar 2012 9:10am
We run metho stove. Always works fine, simple & reliable, no LPG plumbing dramas. But we are more set up for racing, and do not do serious cruising.

Folding prop - It will add 1/2kt or more to your boat speeed - that is 10%. Even if you only cruise, two boats in sight of each other - It is a race! They are not as good as a fixed blade in reverse. A triple blade folder helps. We had a two blade SS folding on our old UFO34. It worked fine. Our pen required us to reverse, often in adverse breeze, and the folder worked fine. And old IOR designed do not reverse very well. Go folding!!!

Poods

PS - I recall a similar query on fixed VS folding in this forum - If you search back you may find some more info.
rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
824 posts
TAS, 824 posts
12 Mar 2012 12:26pm
MatM14 said...

Depends what you are intending to use the stove (and possibly oven) for.

If it is day sailing with the occasional overnight or long weekend then a metho stove will suffice. But if you are looking at coastal cruising or even passage making then you might want the additional cullinary options that having an oven provides.

Personally I have only ever had a metho stove and it has well and truly been adequate but then it hasn't had a very heavy work load either.


I know that I said gas was better but just so everyone knows you can get Origo ovens/stove tops that can be gimballed

www.liveabout.com/lehr-propane-outboard-engine-review-2915368

All that said our boat (38ft ex-Tassie Cray Boat) has a LPG Broadwater 3-burner stove and oven and it is the bees knees. Has given us over 10 years of faultless service and we even open the oven a little to heat the cabin!! But they are over $2k now!!

phylos
phylos
NSW
20 posts
NSW, 20 posts
12 Mar 2012 11:01pm
Thanks people
for your helpful thoughts will put them to use.
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