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lungs
lungs
QLD
492 posts
QLD, 492 posts
5 Dec 2011 12:44am
can any one offer any info
I went for a sail with my neigbour on his macgregor26 yesterday. He is not an experienced sailor and i was hoping to get some advice on his mainsail set up.
I did sail an 18ft cat in my teens and now sail boards, so my terminology/description may be hard to understand.

So, after motoring out of the marina, the main was hoisted. I noticed that most of the sail was hoisted/held to mast track/guide/slot with plastic runners which were attached to the luff of the sail. The remaining part of the sail (approx 1/3) was not attached to the mast and plenty of daylight could be seen between the luff and the mast. To me this didn't seem right, but neighbour said thats how he bought it and has always sailed it and something about not being able to reef it if needed.

The plastic bits/runners seem to be the weakest bit in the chain and the unattached section of the sail just doesn't seem to be efficient not to mention the turbulent wind flow accross the sail.

Even if the sail was to be hoisted/fed/attached up the mast using the rope/chord which is sewn into the sail luff, it couldn't be, because those plastic runners would not allow it to be fed into the mast.
It did have eyelits punched into the sail at about the height where the sail wasn't attached to the mast. Could this be for reefing.

Any advice would be appreciated and would it be a safety issue as i will be sailing on it again one day.
Thanks in Advance
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
5 Dec 2011 8:31am
Well done, you used a sentence with Mcgregor and sail in the same line. Most people are a bit against these vessels. I have only ever seen one sailing on a light day and it moved along reasonably well.

The plastic slides or slugs depending what you have, are incredibly strong. Usually if the boat has slab reefing the slides still go all the way down to the boom and the large cringles are used for reefing.

I suggest you go to the Seldon mast site, http://www.seldenmast.se/firstpage.cfm

there you will find various pdf files to download on reefing,mast setups etc and pretty much anything you need to know.
dralyagmas
dralyagmas
SA
380 posts
SA, 380 posts
6 Dec 2011 10:14am
Sounds like a typical MacGregor... average as a power boat even more average as a sail boat.

Seriosuly, it doesnt sound right. Even with reefing you should still have slugs or a bolt rope all the way down the mainsail. This does not effect reefing in anyway.

If your mail sail is not connected to the mast then obviously your losing a lot of power in the sail.
lungs
lungs
QLD
492 posts
QLD, 492 posts
7 Dec 2011 11:45pm
thanks guys, i will tell him he should take it to a sailmaker, but I won't pass on the comments regarding macgregors as he is wrapped in it, as for me i don't know anything about them or any others, out of curiosity what seems to be the problem with them, could it be they tried to mate a sailboat with a power boat as i saw on their website a skiier being towed behind one. for now I'm happy to sail with him if there is not enough wind to make sailing my windsurfers fun.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
8 Dec 2011 8:51am
lungs said...

thanks guys, i will tell him he should take it to a sailmaker, but I won't pass on the comments regarding macgregors as he is wrapped in it, as for me i don't know anything about them or any others, out of curiosity what seems to be the problem with them, could it be they tried to mate a sailboat with a power boat as i saw on their website a skiier being towed behind one. for now I'm happy to sail with him if there is not enough wind to make sailing my windsurfers fun.


Chatting to a mate yesterday who visited the factory in the States, his son lives down the road so he went and had a look. He was impressed.

The concept is ok but the shape of the stern to carry a large horsepower outboard and the weight just where you don't want it are not good for sailing.
dralyagmas
dralyagmas
SA
380 posts
SA, 380 posts
8 Dec 2011 10:32am
I have sailed in one as my brother in law used to have one. He has since sold it and moved onto a 40ft yacht.

My impression was that they are under powered by sail and over powered by motor. The motor is way too heavy and as Ramona says in the wrong spot for a boat. The hull is very flat and wide with very high top sides. It looks and feels like a caravan, which was the intent to improve the amount of room below. What this does it creates a boat that is top heavy and rolls A LOT. In flat water they might be OK but in some swell or wind chop they go into death rolls while off the breeze which is very uncomfortable. Movement around the cockpit is OK but if you need to move anywhere outside of the cockpit then this becomes quite difficult.

I have no doubt that they are well built and I have seen the infamous DVD with the boat full of water and five people standing on it and it wont sink.

My opinion is they are not a well designed sailing boat. A caravan on water maybe but not a sailing boat.
DPSP4242
DPSP4242
WA
28 posts
WA, 28 posts
13 Dec 2011 10:03pm
You are all being far too nice about the mcgregor. It is not worthy of being called a boat more like floating barge.......
sleek1
sleek1
VIC
672 posts
VIC, 672 posts
14 Dec 2011 9:17pm
DPSP4242 said...

You are all being far too nice about the mcgregor. It is not worthy of being called a boat more like floating barge.......


haha.yeah... least its getting some out that would have been 100% stinky tho.Actualy i have a mate that has one and someone should tell him they are shiat cause he loves it, And sails it well.
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