twelve volt lap tops?

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stupid
stupid
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15 Sep 2010 6:25am
hey all . just interested if any body knows of any brand / model of laptop to use on twelve volt with out a inverter . cheers
Ramona
Ramona
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15 Sep 2010 8:22am
stupid said...

hey all . just interested if any body knows of any brand / model of laptop to use on twelve volt with out a inverter . cheers


I believe the older Toshiba s will. I bought an old Toshiba Tectra off eBay a few years ago. It came with a leather case full of all the extras, spare hard drives and cd drives etc, plus a car power supply unit, 12v to 15-18v. I took the battery out and leave it out and the unit runs off the yacht batteries via the car kit. Some of the yachting forums say they will operate direct off 12v if the internal battery is removed. I have not bothered to try as I have a converter and you need a power cord anyway.

I am running Windows 98. Only programmes are ACDsee {picture programme} for chart manipulation and Seaclear 2 nav programme with a gps puck. The unit is for navigation only, memory is very low {256} and I think its a Pentium 2 but its more than adequate.

Buy something cheap off eBay and give it a try.
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
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15 Sep 2010 8:38pm
Failing that, the inputs to all laptops are DC not AC anyway, so you can use something like this to make sure you end up with the right DV voltage without the need for an inverter:

www.dicksmith.com.au/da/
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
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16 Sep 2010 12:25am
any laptop can run off 12v. its as simple as going to dicky smith and getting a 12 to ??? volt adapter to suit your laptop. plugs into a ciggy lighter.
did it to mine for a year while living aboard with no probs at all. cost 90 bucks.
saltiest1
saltiest1
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16 Sep 2010 12:27am
flat screen tv will work direct connected as well. 12 to 14 volt range but again you gotta check the details on the device!!
stupid
stupid
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QLD, 211 posts
16 Sep 2010 7:17am
thanks all for the valuable info
seems i now just need to start hunting for a dinosaur and see if i can drag it back to the cave !
cheers
Ramona
Ramona
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16 Sep 2010 8:23am
stupid said...

thanks all for the valuable info
seems i now just need to start hunting for a dinosaur and see if i can drag it back to the cave !
cheers


The idea is to pick up a cheap laptop, friends, thrift shops, eBay etc. $50 should be more than adequate to have a suitable 12 or 13 inch nav station plotter that out performs dedicated plotters. Buying converters may be the most expensive part.

Also consider work stations. Buy a 12v power supply for a second-hand office work station is another alternative. Just remember, the more powerful the unit the higher the consumption.

Join a navigation newsgroup such as the Seaclear one and you will have info on equipment and systems and some out of the box suggestions such as forklift touch screen computers etc.
MichaelR
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16 Sep 2010 3:12pm
One question comes to mind is that most electronics not destined for marine work will have some componentry susceptible to the ravages of moist salt air.

I have an idle lap top I'd like to use, but I also don't want it to clap out from corrosion after sitting in the boat for a year....

Comments?

Michael
waxman
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16 Sep 2010 3:47pm
I recently got a apple laptop, performance wise it kills my toshiba, battery life is great i got a genuine 12v adaptor from apple and it is just a cigy lighter plug with the cord coming out.

It took a couple of days to get used to it but now i prefer it. I got windows for it as well and can run Parallel laptops and click and drag between the two. No more viruses, and no hassles.

Most laptops like the toshiba you can get the 12v power supplys for Belkin make a lot of them.
waxman
waxman
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16 Sep 2010 3:53pm
MichaelR said...

One question comes to mind is that most electronics not destined for marine work will have some componentry susceptible to the ravages of moist salt air.

I have an idle lap top I'd like to use, but I also don't want it to clap out from corrosion after sitting in the boat for a year....

Comments?

Michael


If it is just for the boat, i would only use a older secondhand laptop, and maby take it to a computer shop, get them to pull it appart, use some electrical greace on the conectors, remove all the external plugs your not going ot use and seal the openings, even the exposed boards could be sprayed with a varnish like they use on stators and armatures. Or just get a good bag to keep it in.

Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7757 posts
NSW, 7757 posts
16 Sep 2010 6:33pm
MichaelR said...

One question comes to mind is that most electronics not destined for marine work will have some componentry susceptible to the ravages of moist salt air.

I have an idle lap top I'd like to use, but I also don't want it to clap out from corrosion after sitting in the boat for a year....

Comments?

Michael


Unfortunately its a problem even with dedicated marine gear. On my fishing vessel I had a 12'' Seiwa plotter before I switched to an office PC. It had a trackball in the keyboard and if you had wet gloves then moisture went straight past the ball and on to a circuit board. I replaced a couple of boards before I realized for the same money I could have a flash new PC.

The trick is to find a dry, well ventilated position and have it mounted so that moisture does not run off your hands onto the keyboard. Using a rubber keyboard and separate mouse is one way around this. On my fishing vessel the keyboard was mounted vertical on a bulkhead, the water ran off my gloves and did not go near the keyboard.

Most boating electronics are not that water proof really.
HenryMorgan
HenryMorgan
NSW
8 posts
NSW, 8 posts
27 Sep 2010 10:54am
A netbook at the fraction of the cost can have up to 10 hrs battery life...

I have a laptop onboard but I use it for music production, it is heavy on the juice so I use a netbook for everything else.

I also use a Sony psp for watching movies, I plug it in to the flat screen and have dvd quality movies (plus games) with a 4 to 5 hr battery...

MichaelR
MichaelR
NSW
862 posts
NSW, 862 posts
27 Sep 2010 11:17am
Just got an IBM T21 Laptop with 1g RAM and 30G Hard Drive from work as a write off. Bought a 12 volt power supply from Dicks for $120 which will also power/charge the blackberry and ipod. The IBM works on 15 volts, and so is quite happy with this adaptor www.dicksmith.com.au/da/

Flattened the hard drive and re-installed WinXP and Office, as well as SeaClear II and will be installing the GPS puck and the charts when I can figure out how to and where to get the charts for a reasonable cost.

Bonus is, that it has a DVD player and will also drive a wireless internet connection when close to mobile phone range via the blackberry.

SO, anyone got any Eastern Australia Charts they'd like to "share" or swap?

Michael
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2575 posts
NSW, 2575 posts
28 Sep 2010 3:25pm
MichaelR said...

Just got an IBM T21 Laptop with 1g RAM and 30G Hard Drive from work as a write off. Bought a 12 volt power supply from Dicks for $120 which will also power/charge the blackberry and ipod. The IBM works on 15 volts, and so is quite happy with this adaptor www.dicksmith.com.au/da/

Flattened the hard drive and re-installed WinXP and Office, as well as SeaClear II and will be installing the GPS puck and the charts when I can figure out how to and where to get the charts for a reasonable cost.

Bonus is, that it has a DVD player and will also drive a wireless internet connection when close to mobile phone range via the blackberry.

SO, anyone got any Eastern Australia Charts they'd like to "share" or swap?

Michael




Ciscos right, ours was and still is a Twinhead brand laptop bought about 1999. full drop resistant from table height, water resistant, xp pro, dvd and wireless. ran worlwide cmap well and interfaced via nmea to auto pilot (coursmeaster) and wind instruments.
still more reliable than our new(ish) toshiba.
20 volts. even had wireless moden for internet which worked within sight of land.
i miss my little boat though.
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