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Best board for digging in rails

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Created by touralie 3 months ago, 30 Dec 2018
touralie
NSW, 23 posts
30 Dec 2018 9:59AM
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Hey guys. Long story short. Im ready for my next board. Ive gone from 11'4 nalu, 9'5 mana to a 9' x 32 x 5 inch x150L hokua. This has been over about 2 years...

I find with the hokua i get a bit slippery on the face of the wave and find it hard to dig the rail in.

I like the 32 width but am happy to start looking for a different board.

So... what are your thoughts??

Thanks in advance

micksmith
VIC, 1283 posts
30 Dec 2018 10:27AM
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Hi mate, it's helpful for peeps to know your weight etc also what fin/s you use. Generally wide thick boards are hard to bury the rail, they do tend to slide

touralie
NSW, 23 posts
30 Dec 2018 3:05PM
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Hey mick. Mate 6'4 and 95kg. Currently using thruster setup but ordered a quad setup last week. Should have it in a couple of days

hilly
WA, 4526 posts
30 Dec 2018 12:38PM
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touralie said..
Hey mick. Mate 6'4 and 95kg. Currently using thruster setup but ordered a quad setup last week. Should have it in a couple of days


The issue is the volume of the board not the fins. At 105kg I ride 125 to 130 litre boards from 8 6 to 10ft. Thin rails work well at speed.

jb1979
NSW, 27 posts
30 Dec 2018 5:16PM
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Im the same size as you and ride:

8'9 sunova Flash @ 30 wide and 122L

8'5 custom with @30.5 wide and 118L. Performance shape with a little extra width in the tail

Around that size would be fine for you, although I did transition through a 130L board on the way down from my 8'8 surfwide, which is similar to your hokua.

I also have a 8'6 hypernut at 31.5 wide which I ride when its bumpy or super small and I wouldn't otherwise surf.

Also - when riding wider boards, its super critical to be right on the tail to engage the rails at all. Are you confident that you are doing this? below is me on my hypernut on a v.small day with most of the board out of the water.



colas
3088 posts
30 Dec 2018 3:05PM
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touralie, time to get down in size. But progressively, do not get down too much. Something like 8'6" x 30/31 x 130L could be great.

As jb1979 said, foot positioning is key. Try to move your rear foot backwards and closer to the rail(*). And let time for the board to dig the rail before moving your body weight inside the turn.


In my experience, what makes a board easy to put on a rail depends on the wave speed:
- In slow waves (15s mandates narrow boards.
- in medium waves, lowering the rail volume helps as much as reducing width
- the faster the wave, the more the width becomes critical. >15s mandates narrow boards.


Smaller fins and hull shapes (V, concaves) help, but it is marginal.

(*) This vid may help:

touralie
NSW, 23 posts
30 Dec 2018 9:11PM
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Thanks for the feedback guys.. i have been working on my foot positioning. This vid was one of the first sup videos i watched!!

Guess im on the right track because i was looking at boards from 8'5 x 32 such as fanatic or ecs wideboy. Both about 135 ish L.

Thanks again for your help

Tardy
2893 posts
30 Dec 2018 7:38PM
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touralie said..
Hey guys. Long story short. Im ready for my next board. Ive gone from 11'4 nalu, 9'5 mana to a 9' x 32 x 5 inch x150L hokua. This has been over about 2 years...

I find with the hokua i get a bit slippery on the face of the wave and find it hard to dig the rail in.

I like the 32 width but am happy to start looking for a different board.

So... what are your thoughts??

Thanks in advance


I've also had these boards .and thought i liked 32 wide too ...but that changed .
Sunova Acid .is a good choice .pulled in nose and tail ,great bite on the wave and nice in the sucky section.
the flow is my second favourite .
the shape of the sunova rails are the key to these boards ,not boxy like the x32 .
ITS improved my surfing a lot ..

colas
3088 posts
30 Dec 2018 8:55PM
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colas said..
In my experience, what makes a board easy to put on a rail depends on the wave speed:
- In slow waves (15s mandates narrow boards.
- in medium waves, lowering the rail volume helps as much as reducing width
- the faster the wave, the more the width becomes critical. >15s mandates narrow boards.


Seems my post was garbled (it heppens when I edit them). I wanted to say:
- In slow waves (15s period mandates narrow boards.

jb1979
NSW, 27 posts
31 Dec 2018 6:06PM
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touralie said..
Thanks for the feedback guys.. i have been working on my foot positioning. This vid was one of the first sup videos i watched!!

Guess im on the right track because i was looking at boards from 8'5 x 32 such as fanatic or ecs wideboy. Both about 135 ish L.

Thanks again for your help


You should maybe look at something with less width and more performance orientated, because you prob won't notice much difference ? 8'10 flow maybe or even a custom from surefire or deep or someone like that?

The surefire de-vandal would be a good choice. It's a hybrid model between the performance shape vandal and the wideboy degenerate.

Give them a call and ask for exactly what you want. I.e I want a 8'8 by 30.5 by 128l with nice low rails and you'll get one designed that's as close as possible to what you ask for. Well priced too.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 1751 posts
1 Jan 2019 8:11AM
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I am with Tardy - the Acid works. I am the same dimensions as you. I ride a 9'1 125L if it is choppy/lumpy, 8'10 115L if it isn't (and 8'7 105L) if I lose 5 kg). I got there via a few boards including the Naish Hokua 8'8 X32 and the 8'7 Flow. (I also have the 9'0 Flash but probably didn't give it enough of a run to properly compare it to the Acid.)

paul.j
QLD, 2788 posts
1 Jan 2019 9:51AM
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This is all I sup surf these days and they have so much speed and drive it's crazy, best thing is you can have them made in any size you want and they are way cheaper than you might think.
We have made alot of these boards and never heard a bad word on them they are super light and really perform how you would want a preformance sup should. I surf them in any thing under 6ft


www.oneoceansportsaustralia.com/custom-boards/






cantSUPenough
VIC, 1751 posts
1 Jan 2019 3:54PM
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Wow - that looks pretty sleek! How thin is that board?

touralie
NSW, 23 posts
1 Jan 2019 7:31PM
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Hey . Thanks for all the feedback. I ended up with a ecs wideboy. 8'10x31 x 135L. Took it out today in small surf and so far im really impressed. Guess i will see how it goes wen its a big bigger.

I think i have room to move in regards to dropping more liters ..

Boards above do look sleek.. i will check out website.

paul.j
QLD, 2788 posts
1 Jan 2019 6:59PM
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touralie said..
Hey . Thanks for all the feedback. I ended up with a ecs wideboy. 8'10x31 x 135L. Took it out today in small surf and so far im really impressed. Guess i will see how it goes wen its a big bigger.

I think i have room to move in regards to dropping more liters ..

Boards above do look sleek.. i will check out website.


Stoked you got a new board!! always feel free to give us a buzz if you decide to drop a bit more or even look for that board that is just made to suit you perfectly.
Once you ride one of these Custom little fish is pretty hard to go back to the traditional shaped SUPs.

Jacko

paul.j
QLD, 2788 posts
1 Jan 2019 7:02PM
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cantSUPenough said..
Wow - that looks pretty sleek! How thin is that board?


Not 100% sure as these were a few we did a while back, I think the one in the pic is the one we made for my Step father which was 8'2 x 29 x 120L can't quite remember the thickness but I know he drips on it for someone in there late 60's!!

touralie
NSW, 23 posts
3 Jan 2019 4:12PM
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paul.j said..

touralie said..
Hey . Thanks for all the feedback. I ended up with a ecs wideboy. 8'10x31 x 135L. Took it out today in small surf and so far im really impressed. Guess i will see how it goes wen its a big bigger.

I think i have room to move in regards to dropping more liters ..

Boards above do look sleek.. i will check out website.



Stoked you got a new board!! always feel free to give us a buzz if you decide to drop a bit more or even look for that board that is just made to suit you perfectly.
Once you ride one of these Custom little fish is pretty hard to go back to the traditional shaped SUPs.

Jacko


Thanks jacko i will. Checked out your website already.. actually spoke to a guy in the surf today who said u guys made great boards.

Kami
1337 posts
4 Jan 2019 7:24AM
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Been always thinking about the side bite fins with the looseness of the Bonzer Bottom. This would be a good fin set up to dig in rails
Just a numeric design on Shape3D

www.shape3d.com/Viewers/Viewer3D.aspx?Board=4780

thord
NSW, 2 posts
17 Feb 2019 10:11PM
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Gday touralie,
Sunova speed,size to suit..not the widest ,but digs in with thinned out rails and narrow tail..aSlsp the starboard hypernut,is a massive surprise and gives a confidence on suckier quick waves.Stable as,when waiting for waves..

supthecreek
1688 posts
19 Feb 2019 6:30AM
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I grew up in the era of the Barry Kanaiaupuni bottom turn.... no wave counted unless you laid down some track.

50 years later, and it still defines my goals.

My Sunova Creek never lets me down on a rail turn.
This vid was my test to see if I could blow out my fins when I first got my 9'1. Solid as a rock.



James Casey likes his 7'10 as well, when he rode it to 3rd in the Aussie Titles







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