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Sunova 7'4" 2in1 Foil SUP

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Created by Casso 5 months ago, 31 Jan 2018
Casso
NSW, 3437 posts
31 Jan 2018 7:14PM
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Imagine if that shiny new hydrofoil you just bought could simply slot into your favourite funboard surf SUP. No sending your pride and joy off to local board repairer to be sawn, drilled, routed, packed, laminated and painted. No risking divorce for buying a new dedicated SUP foilboard - "but you just spent $2,000 on that blasted hydrofoil contraption".

Imagine no more. The Sunova 2in1 SUP Foilboard is here. And it's a cracker.

For less that the cost of most 'single purpose' surf SUPs on the market you can pick up one of these 2in1s from Sunova and have a ball on it as a surf SUP or a foil SUP.

FOIL


A super comfortable platform for foiling

Now foilboards don't really need a lot of specialised features or performance characteristics. They just need to get you on the wave easily, have enough nose lift to not nose dive when you breach, be strong enough to withstand the forces of foiling and the foil boxe(s) need to be in the right place. The Sunova 2in1 does all of these things excellently.

I was on the smallest of the 2in1s, the 7'4" which is 29" wide and 111 litres. I generally ride a 90 litre board so the 7'4" floated my 95kgs quite well. This made for some easy paddling - both out the back and onto waves. The 29" width is great for cutting through the water when some frantic straight line paddling is needed and also not touching down when you push through a turn while up on the foil.

I'm still learning to do this hydrofoiling thing and I consequently breach the foil a lot. My other prototype foilboard is very flat through the nose which means I'm a bit of a regular at the old 'high speed nose dive slapdown' during these breaches. The 2in1 however has just enough nose lift to whoosh you back up during an inevitable nose dive. Not too much though that it affects paddling performance.

With foiling maestro James Casey on the Sunova design team you would expect the factory to get the boxes in the right position - and that they have. It was a smart move by Sunova to put both a tuttle box and dual finboxes into the 2in1 so it doesn't matter what brand of foil you have, this board will cater for it.

And because it's Sunova you know it'll be strong. There are a lot of pressures around the mast base of a foilboard and many after market foil installations go horribly wrong - even to the point of losing the complete kit to the bottom of the ocean. Sunova have managed to build super strong and rigid boxes and their surrounds yet keep the overall board nice and light. The 7'4" I was on came in at just over 8kg.

SUP SURF


Turns great for a wide tail foilboard

I wasn't expecting much in terms of surf performance from the 2in1 but I figured I'd whack some fins it and give it a whirl anyway. From my first wave I knew I'd unfairly judged it. It surfs great. I was riding it as a thruster with really big side fins but it can also take a quad set up.

It does have a very wide tail so it doesn't come off the bottom too critically but on a nice fatish wave it's an absolute pleasure to ride. Excellent planning speed, great stability and very nice carving ability had me thoroughly enjoying what would probably have been a very average surf in less than enticing conditions.

It rides very much like a fish, which I suppose is to be expected because if you reversed the big diamond tail to be a fish tail, the rest of planshape would make it look not dissimilar to a Skip Frye fish from the seventies. It's good to keep it relative flat on the wave face and concentrate on trimming, speed turns and winding up for a big gentle cutback. Surprisingly it does hit lip quite well and it definitely floats beautifully over whitewater sections with that big, wide, flat underside creating exceptional stability.

I'm very used to a tail block for my back foot so I know exactly when I'm in the right spot and so it gives me a little something to push off through turns. This test board didn't have one which had me slipping off the tail a couple of times. I've seen others with a tail block so I'm hoping this one is just an anomaly.

Like when I used it with a foil, it paddles really well and having the ability to pick up the odd set wave early from way out the back made surfing a crowded lineup that little bit more pleasurable.


A little video showing the versatility of the 2in1

Highs
- Super versatile (SUP surf, tuttle foil, plate foil)
- Great price
- Strong but light
- Great design for both surf and foil
- Paddles beautifully
- Quad or thruster option

Lows
- Recessed handle instead of a LiftSUP (can't lock the board up as easily)
- No tail block (on test board)

Piros
QLD, 5131 posts
31 Jan 2018 7:00PM
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Great looking board Casso and really good video mate

Casso
NSW, 3437 posts
31 Jan 2018 8:46PM
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Piros said..
Great looking board Casso and really good video mate


Thanks champ.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 1534 posts
31 Jan 2018 9:35PM
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Thanks for the great report, as always!

Can't believe you can throw around a 12 footer one day and a 7 footer the next

I wonder why they did the 2-in-1 in the Eco style and not the fancy style?

How different is the stability on the 7'4 (as a surf sup) as compared with a similar volume Flow or Acid?

It would be cool to take it on a surf trip along with the "proper" board (e.g. Acid/Flow)... Use it on the waves if the other is damaged, or use it as a foil if the line-up gets busy... (I assume there is no comparison to a Flow/Acid from a surfing standpoint).

supthecreek
1471 posts
31 Jan 2018 11:32PM
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Ripping Casso.... really shows all the goodies on this board and how it well it works.

SunnyBouy
232 posts
31 Jan 2018 11:39PM
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Cool vid.

Foiling doesn't inspire me but always looks fun to watch.

Seajuice
NSW, 198 posts
2 Feb 2018 7:21PM
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Nice! Very nice. Good on Bert Berger. Looks like this board is in my sights.

Funnsurfn
NSW, 288 posts
6 Feb 2018 4:40PM
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Cracking idea. Just got asked what litres/ sizes they come in.

mike3217
VIC, 39 posts
6 Feb 2018 4:49PM
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I dunno just something a bit wrong with foiling can't put my finger on it

barbarian
NSW, 187 posts
6 Feb 2018 7:39PM
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Casso, you look more comfortable foiling the tuttle box Go foil than the other (didn't recognise the brand); is that just my perception? or will you comment on the difference in foils?

Also, is there a windsurf mast track in the board as per other Sunova boards?
cheers

Casso
NSW, 3437 posts
6 Feb 2018 9:36PM
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Funnsurfn said..
Cracking idea. Just got asked what litres/ sizes they come in.


They come in:
7'4" x 29" x 111L
7'8" x 30" x 126L
8'0" x 31.25" x 136L

Casso
NSW, 3437 posts
6 Feb 2018 9:45PM
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barbarian said..
Casso, you look more comfortable foiling the tuttle box Go foil than the other (didn't recognise the brand); is that just my perception? or will you comment on the difference in foils?

Also, is there a windsurf mast track in the board as per other Sunova boards?
cheers


The "other one" is the new Ke Nalu IWA 580 but it was a prototype with a modified mast that was a bit loose in the plate adaptor and consequently made everything (including me) a bit wobbly.

There is no windsurf mast track in these 2in1s as standard. I'm sure they'll throw one into a custom for you though.

Gorgo
VIC, 3964 posts
Tuesday , 10 Jul 2018 11:02AM
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Casso, I assume you were using the deep Tuttle box for the Go Foils in the video. Did you have any problems fitting the foil into the deep Tuttle box?

I checked out the Sunova 2in1 at my local store, and found that the deep Tuttle slot is too narrow to fit my foil, or a GoFoil we tried in the shop. It's about 1mm too narrow, which is a fair bit to have to sand off the slot and the mast to get it to fit.

paul.j
QLD, 2667 posts
Tuesday , 10 Jul 2018 6:56PM
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Gorgo said..
Casso, I assume you were using the deep Tuttle box for the Go Foils in the video. Did you have any problems fitting the foil into the deep Tuttle box?

I checked out the Sunova 2in1 at my local store, and found that the deep Tuttle slot is too narrow to fit my foil, or a GoFoil we tried in the shop. It's about 1mm too narrow, which is a fair bit to have to sand off the slot and the mast to get it to fit.


This seems pretty normal unfortunately with Tuttle boxes. We got a bunch of new boxes in our last Gofoil order and half of the boxes were to small for the the foil to fit!! We did make them all work but does seem there is a slight difference between batches.

All the boards we make some how have never had a issue so maybe we just get all the good boxes for our boards and the rest are sold separately!!??

that guy
64 posts
Thursday , 12 Jul 2018 1:55PM
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great review casso - design sounds epic , lucky i waited :)

Gorgo
VIC, 3964 posts
Thursday , 12 Jul 2018 6:21PM
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Gorgo said..
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I checked out the Sunova 2in1 at my local store, and found that the deep Tuttle slot is too narrow to fit my foil, or a GoFoil we tried in the shop. It's about 1mm too narrow, which is a fair bit to have to sand off the slot and the mast to get it to fit.


We were trying to fit the mast into the board up on a stand. That, and not wanting to apply much force to a board I didn't own meant we couldn't get the mast into the box.

Apparently it all goes together if you put the board on the floor and apply a bit of force.

viatormundi
89 posts
Saturday , 14 Jul 2018 4:42AM
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Casso,

I have the 7'8'' 2in1 Eco. Great board indeed. Which fin combination and models would you recommend for regular surfing?

Casso
NSW, 3437 posts
Saturday , 14 Jul 2018 8:44PM
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viatormundi said..
Casso,

I have the 7'8'' 2in1 Eco. Great board indeed. Which fin combination and models would you recommend for regular surfing?


I used the big FCS MR twins on the sides and a little FCS ARC in the back. Worked well.

viatormundi
89 posts
Today , 16 Jul 2018 2:55AM
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Thx Casso



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