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anyone got a sunova flash ?

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Created by Tardy 1 month ago, 4 Apr 2018
Tardy
2181 posts
4 Apr 2018 3:07PM
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HI ALL
I'm just serious about getting a flash ,looking at my 8.7 flow it has a very similar rocker ,as Bert calls it a banana shape rocker .
looking at the 9.0 .i think it would be great for bigger waves .
can anyone comment on this board if you own one ,?
any feed back appreciated ..no can demo.

Tardy
2181 posts
4 Apr 2018 3:32PM
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slugga
VIC, 143 posts
4 Apr 2018 6:58PM
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I have a 8'8 x30 x118liters brand new in rye if you want to demo or buy






Tardy
2181 posts
4 Apr 2018 5:10PM
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cheers slugga..i did see that nice .
looking at the bigger sizes ..as I'm not the best on boards under 120 ..and under 30 1\4 my 8'7 flow .looking for a big wave stick .
need more foam.
whats it surf like ?

slugga
VIC, 143 posts
4 Apr 2018 10:09PM
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I had it made for a big wave heavy wave board from my 8'7 flow . It paddles same as the flow but moves faster on wave turns nice and crisp.. but I've not put any time into it that's why it's for sale

slugga
VIC, 143 posts
4 Apr 2018 10:10PM
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If you paddle a 8'7 flow you can paddle this it's nearly same dimensions

jb1979
NSW, 8 posts
5 Apr 2018 2:58PM
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Hi Guys,
I'm interested here as well, particularly as a crossover between the two boards. Its seems to me from reading and researching that the Flash is a refinement of the flow, geared more towards good waves, but is still an all round board versus say the Acid or Insane, which are super specific.

My question is why would you have the flow over the flash if you were to have only 1 or the other , or vice versa?

Slugga I'm curious that if you had both why you didn't keep the flash over the flow.

I am currently deciding whether to buy the 8'10 flow or the 9'0 flash as my everyday board. I surf primarily beachies between say waist and head and a bit high, and have a groveller for the small days.

Cheers!

Tardy
2181 posts
5 Apr 2018 3:33PM
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YO , JB1979.
i have the 8'10 flow ...its not a bad all rounder ..but find it hard to sit in the pocket.due to the quite wide tail .
it is better suited to fuller waves i feel .
the flash being a rounded pin will solve this problem i hope ...i think this board stands alone as far as being similar to the flow
or acid .its a new shape from James Casey .and Bert .it s more of a high performance SUP,
I think it will out surf the flow.looser and thinned out rail so you can lay it right over.
Seem i have a 8'7 flow ,a keeper, i might add ,i need a more radical bigger board but still want to have 130 litres for big days .and crap days .
i just took a punt today .9,0 .

i will let slugga tell you his storey ...i think he's a twin fin dude now .

slugga
VIC, 143 posts
5 Apr 2018 8:14PM
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jb1979 said..
Hi Guys,
I'm interested here as well, particularly as a crossover between the two boards. Its seems to me from reading and researching that the Flash is a refinement of the flow, geared more towards good waves, but is still an all round board versus say the Acid or Insane, which are super specific.

My question is why would you have the flow over the flash if you were to have only 1 or the other , or vice versa?

Slugga I'm curious that if you had both why you didn't keep the flash over the flow.

I am currently deciding whether to buy the 8'10 flow or the 9'0 flash as my everyday board. I surf primarily beachies between say waist and head and a bit high, and have a groveller for the small days.

Cheers!


I have changed boards and am riding smik sups now loving the hipster twin 8'3 totally different boards

billyyorkes
SA, 8 posts
5 Apr 2018 8:35PM
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had a 8'7" flow for past year really liked the board .have had my 8'6" flash for a month now and is a way better board .faster .smother through the turns .way more grip .seems to have more rocker than the flow ..im 95kg so board is a bit more tippy but that might be to do with 9 litres less .only had one day on it in 5ft day + but seems very happy to be out there .were I found the flow to be good but bit skidish as a thruster in bigger surf.flash seem to be not as good as flow in 1to 2ft surf .but way better 3ft +..

jb1979
NSW, 8 posts
5 Apr 2018 10:07PM
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Thanks guys great feed back. I'm 95kg too but for me at the moment 130L is my sweet spot so the 8'10 flow or 9'0 flash is where its at. I know if I went the 8'7 flow or 8'9 flash Id be OK most of the time but prob too much hard work for what I'm after.

I think ill go with the Flash. I can always bust out the surfwide for the smaller stuff if I need to.

Justin

Tardy
2181 posts
5 Apr 2018 8:24PM
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wise move justin ,I'm 97 kgs and 54,can ride the 8,7 @ 120 but happier with 130 litres,

thanks billy ,my 9,0 flash should be good in 5-6 foot reef breaks then
i agree with you about the flow being better in smaller waves .
love building a quiver,

SunnyBouy
211 posts
5 Apr 2018 11:23PM
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Not jealous at all

If Slugga lived in the UK....

jb1979
NSW, 8 posts
6 Apr 2018 12:26PM
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Picking up my 9'0 tonight !

Tardy
2181 posts
6 Apr 2018 12:33PM
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Sweet ,mines 20 days away.
let me know what it surfs like

I think it will a 9 ripper and surf smaller than what it is ...i like that you can ride it as a quad too..
I'm a quad fan ...

mbuzz
NSW, 241 posts
6 Apr 2018 9:05PM
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I demoed the 8'7 flow and was about to part dollars when the flash came out. I had one reservation about the flow and that was that it was slow to get going when on a wall, making it hard to make sections. I opted for the 8'9 flash and am pleased to say it's an awesome board.

In small waves it handle very much like the flow, but you are able to trim and pick up extra speed when needed (the flow reaches a point where it doesn't seem to want to accelerate). On bigger waves (of which I really want more to fully test it), it's acceleration is incredible.

I've had to adjust my surfing style in bigger waves and position myself much further forward on the board, lean forward and ride it more from the middle rather that from the tail as is was getting thrown of the back when it accelerated out from under me. It literally felt like someone was yanking the board from under me it was so sudden.

In terms of stability, I think there is very little difference between the 8'7 flow and the 8'9 flash, but the flash just does everything else that much better than the flow.

If I had to make one criticism of the 8'9 flash, it's that the board could probably loose a tiny bit of thickness, flattening out the rolled deck a little in the middle, dropping a few litres to around 119l and still be an amazing board, but I'm really splitting hairs here.

Go for it.

Disclaimer: I'm 6'2 and 95kg

slugga
VIC, 143 posts
6 Apr 2018 9:36PM
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mbuzz said..
I demoed the 8'7 flow and was about to part dollars when the flash came out. I had one reservation about the flow and that was that it was slow to get going when on a wall, making it hard to make sections. I opted for the 8'9 flash and am pleased to say it's an awesome board.

In small waves it handle very much like the flow, but you are able to trim and pick up extra speed when needed (the flow reaches a point where it doesn't seem to want to accelerate). On bigger waves (of which I really want more to fully test it), it's acceleration is incredible.

I've had to adjust my surfing style in bigger waves and position myself much further forward on the board, lean forward and ride it more from the middle rather that from the tail as is was getting thrown of the back when it accelerated out from under me. It literally felt like someone was yanking the board from under me it was so sudden.

In terms of stability, I think there is very little difference between the 8'7 flow and the 8'9 flash, but the flash just does everything else that much better than the flow.

If I had to make one criticism of the 8'9 flash, it's that the board could probably loose a tiny bit of thickness, flattening out the rolled deck a little in the middle, dropping a few litres to around 119l and still be an amazing board, but I'm really splitting hairs here.

Go for it.

Disclaimer: I'm 6'2 and 95kg


Funny you say that about your one criticism I had my flash shaped to a 8'8 and pulled some of the thickness so it's 118 liters.

jb1979
NSW, 8 posts
7 Apr 2018 6:17AM
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If nothing else these boards are something akin to a work of art.






cantSUPenough
VIC, 1497 posts
7 Apr 2018 11:20AM
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Has anyone spent any time on a Flash and Acid? What does the Flash have over the Acid?

slugga
VIC, 143 posts
8 Apr 2018 6:47PM
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cantSUPenough said..
Has anyone spent any time on a Flash and Acid? What does the Flash have over the Acid?


Stability.... because of the rocker and the shape of the nose and tail I found by acid quiet hard to paddle and was tiring. But they are more responsive to surf too

cantSUPenough
VIC, 1497 posts
9 Apr 2018 12:28AM
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slugga said..

cantSUPenough said..
Has anyone spent any time on a Flash and Acid? What does the Flash have over the Acid?



Stability.... because of the rocker and the shape of the nose and tail I found by acid quiet hard to paddle and was tiring. But they are more responsive to surf too


So the flash is more responsive that the acid... I have liked the acid (until now...) As you say, the acid does have a bit of rocker, which helps with the steep drops, but after you mentioned that in the smik thread I was out a few days ago and noticed how much of the nose is out of the water when you are paddling/standing out the back, even though a lot of the rest of the board is almost under water...

jrc22ski
WA, 21 posts
9 Apr 2018 3:37AM
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I currently ride an 8'2" Speeed at 104L. If junky, I still have a custom PSH 109' x 281/4 x 41/4 (i don't know the volume).

I am 5'10", 170 lbs (77kg's).

Considering a Flash as well. I went on a trip and surfed a 8'0" Surftech quad at 95L and I did well in calm conditions.

Perspective from anyone appreciated on sizes to consider for my go to board in good conditions.

jb1979
NSW, 8 posts
9 Apr 2018 8:38AM
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2 surfs in and I am very happy.

For reference I am 6'4 and 95Kg naked. I consider myself an average intermediate, and have been SUPPING for around 12 months, but do come from a prone surfing background. Previous boards I can compare to are an 8'8 Surfwide and a custom 8'6 x 30.5, 9'4 Fanatic and a couple of other demos such as an 8'10 speeed.

1st session yesterday was very bumpy with a decent 2ft underlying swell. This morning was picture perfect 2-3 foot beachies.

Board is the 9'0, set up as quad with the supplied fins -105 front, 94 back.

Tracking and glide - excellent, no worries at all, I think the length has a lot to do with this
Stability - excellent. Managed fine yesterday in the bumps, and this morning was a pleasure.
Wave catching ability - again excellent. I paddled up and down the beach, took some late drops on purpose and had a go in a sucky section, all good, very easy. Nicer early entry on the waves I went for properly. Stable and confident. I do agree with what someone said that it does accelerate very quickly - took me a few waves to get it and it definitely got away from me on a few!
Turning - awesome. So easy to turn and change direction. Putting on a rail was easy, even right at take off to stay high on the wave. the board just did what I wanted. This is the most surfboard like SUP I have ridden, if that makes sense. I think the key word is control.

Foot positioning - provided my front foot is behind the handle board turns nicely. It was great to not have to try and search for the back of a board to get it turn.

The board has loads of drive and just did exactly what I was trying to each time. Nice and loose, but not out of control loose like my Surfwide.

Probably the only thing that is a minor negative it takes a bit of work to spin the board to take off, but as I have been riding shorter boards it will just be a technique adjustment on my part.

I have definitely made the right choice (even though I didnt ride an 8'10 flow). Look forward to getting it in bigger surf, I have no doubt it will perform exemplary.

When I was younger I went through a lot of boards until I bought a Jim banks 6'2 x 20 keel fin, which I then rode primarily for the next 5 years and i still have (12 years later). I get the same feeling from this board.

Tardy
2181 posts
9 Apr 2018 7:56AM
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Great review...I."m getting excited.you have big fins on.I use these on my flow.7 front 2 or3 rear depending on size of waves.I'm sure this will solve the spinning around problem as well as loosen it up some moreor 9-4 front and single rear.i haven't got mine yet but feel I've made the right choice ...was going to go for a creek ,but change last minute ,i wanted a round pin .tail with quad set up .

slugga
VIC, 143 posts
9 Apr 2018 1:51PM
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cantSUPenough said..

slugga said..


cantSUPenough said..
Has anyone spent any time on a Flash and Acid? What does the Flash have over the Acid?




Stability.... because of the rocker and the shape of the nose and tail I found by acid quiet hard to paddle and was tiring. But they are more responsive to surf too



So the flash is more responsive that the acid... I have liked the acid (until now...) As you say, the acid does have a bit of rocker, which helps with the steep drops, but after you mentioned that in the smik thread I was out a few days ago and noticed how much of the nose is out of the water when you are paddling/standing out the back, even though a lot of the rest of the board is almost under water...


sorry i ment that the acid was more responsive than the flash. but flash more than the flow.

trehoffen
9 posts
9 Apr 2018 12:36PM
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slugga said..

jb1979 said..
Hi Guys,
I'm interested here as well, particularly as a crossover between the two boards. Its seems to me from reading and researching that the Flash is a refinement of the flow, geared more towards good waves, but is still an all round board versus say the Acid or Insane, which are super specific.

My question is why would you have the flow over the flash if you were to have only 1 or the other , or vice versa?

Slugga I'm curious that if you had both why you didn't keep the flash over the flow.

I am currently deciding whether to buy the 8'10 flow or the 9'0 flash as my everyday board. I surf primarily beachies between say waist and head and a bit high, and have a groveller for the small days.

Cheers!



I have changed boards and am riding smik sups now loving the hipster twin 8'3 totally different boards


Slugga,

Have been hearing good things about the Smik hipster twin.
Curious how you would compare the 8,3 hipster to the 8,10 flow paddling and stability wise.
Sounds like they are much more maneuverable.

Any feedback appreciated as seriously considering a Smik.

mbuzz
NSW, 241 posts
14 Apr 2018 11:37AM
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I took the Flash out in the first good conditions I've been able to get out in since getting it.

Surf was 2-3ft with the odd 4ft sets thrown in. Light cross offshore wind and despite it being 33 out of the water, the summer crowds are thinning out at last. The waves were holding up nicely and there were some nice walls. At one point a large pod of dolphins joined in the fun on a few waves. The only thing that could have made it more magical would have been a unicorn galloping along the beach farting rainbows.

If I was to think of my top 10 waves I've had since I starting on a sup 8 years ago, half a dozen of them would have been on the Flash yesterday.

Take off was effortless. It was supper smooth and easy to link bottom and top turns. I was able to pump the board on the wall to accelerate and make sections I would never have made previously. I have to say I am really happy with the flash.

Thanks AA for talking me into the flash over the flow and thanks BB for making such a great board.

Tardy
2181 posts
14 Apr 2018 3:55PM
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great to hear mbuzz....about the board ..i like rainbows too.
you are right about the 8,7 flow, speed ..its on the tail jamming it ,thats what it likes ..i still love it in 3-4 foot waves .

my main aim was to get a 9,0 that can still stay loose in big waves ,and give the extra get up and go ,with a little more
rocker than my 8,10 ,130 flow .i can't wait to compare them ..i will report soon ...in 12 days time .

but it sounds like a great choice .

are you using it as a thruster or quad.

mbuzz
NSW, 241 posts
14 Apr 2018 7:08PM
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Tardy said..
are you using it as a thruster or quad.



Currently using a thruster but I hit a couple of top turns at speed without the rails fully engaged and felt like the tail was sliding sideways. Would be keen to try a quad setup in similar conditions and see how it goes. There was a point where I considered coming in and swapping fins but was having too much fun and didn't want to disturb the unicorns on the beach.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 1497 posts
14 Apr 2018 9:58PM
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Great review mbuzz! Curious to know about the previous boards you have owned.

SunnyBouy
211 posts
15 Apr 2018 3:30AM
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Great real world review, thanks for taking the time to post it



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