14 foot naish glide reports

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firstpoint
firstpoint
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12 Sep 2009 6:49am
dj,or anyone else in seabreeze land,any reports for your naish 14,ive paddled one briefly and compared it to the 12' glide,side by side switching over etc and thought the 14 very stable in flat water,quite fast but then i dont really have a comparison to go by,the 14 seemed to suit my weight 93 kg,and it actually fits inside my van easily in its cover(very important),how is it in chop/down wind on runners etc we found that with me on the 12 and annie on the 14 she could keep up with me however with me on the 14 and annie on the 12 i just flew away from her.she found the 14 heavy to paddle and directly compared it to a lahui kai (jamie mitchell's 12.6) and the custom board was very light and fast for her.personally i thought the 14 would be a very good club racecruise and training board.if enough people had them it would be a good class board alternative to a custom racer.imo good value for money with good resale (another very important feature)if you got serious about racing and got a custom.
angie pangi
angie pangi
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12 Sep 2009 8:04am
firstpoint said...

dj,or anyone else in seabreeze land,any reports for your naish 14,ive paddled one briefly and compared it to the 12' glide,side by side switching over etc and thought the 14 very stable in flat water,quite fast but then i dont really have a comparison to go by,the 14 seemed to suit my weight 93 kg,and it actually fits inside my van easily in its cover(very important),how is it in chop/down wind on runners etc we found that with me on the 12 and annie on the 14 she could keep up with me however with me on the 14 and annie on the 12 i just flew away from her.she found the 14 heavy to paddle and directly compared it to a lahui kai (jamie mitchell's 12.6) and the custom board was very light and fast for her.personally i thought the 14 would be a very good club racecruise and training board.if enough people had them it would be a good class board alternative to a custom racer.imo good value for money with good resale (another very important feature)if you got serious about racing and got a custom.

I took it for a downwind run the other day and speed wise it would have been faster than my old 17 from the feels of how it picks up the runner with ease. Would be a little less stable than the 12 but not much it was at home when surfing the runners and felt in control all the time. Weight wise it would be about 14-15kg which i thought was pretty good as my old 17 come in at the same weight. The durability of the Naish will be better than a custom race board from my experience.

Jacko


DavidJohn
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12 Sep 2009 9:46am
If it's down-winders that you want the board for the answer is easy.. Go for the 14'er for sure.

The 14'er will catch runners that the 12'er would not.. and it handles the rough conditions so much better.

DJ













Gorgo
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12 Sep 2009 12:05pm
Hey Guys

Keep us posted on how the 14 handles in small to medium surf. I'm thinking in terms of being down the coast and catching 1-2' grovellers or doing coastal runs and dropping into the odd peak that you encounter along the way for a trim ride.

It might require a fin change to be usable in that context. From Jonathan's comments it sounds like the 12'6" Starboard might be more suited to that purpose. Maybe the 12' Glide as well.
DavidJohn
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12 Sep 2009 4:15pm
Gorgo said...

Hey Guys

Keep us posted on how the 14 handles in small to medium surf.



Don't even think about it.. IMO.

It's like asking how a Ferarri would go in the Pari Dakar..

DJ

Gorgo
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12 Sep 2009 6:12pm
I tend to agree hence the question. But ... how does the 14' Glide know that the 1-2' wave under it is surf or wind swell?
DavidJohn
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12 Sep 2009 7:15pm
It just knows.
paul.j
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12 Sep 2009 7:19pm
hey DJ whats with you putting on the other naish fin.?
Lfish
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12 Sep 2009 6:05pm
paul.j said...

hey DJ whats with you putting on the other naish fin.?


He may be having an affair with nobby rash...............
DavidJohn
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13 Sep 2009 12:19am
paul.j said...

hey DJ whats with you putting on the other naish fin.?


I just thought I'd try it.

Touch the stock dagger fin on a rock or even sand in shallow water and it will be easily damaged.

Touch it with your foot during a fall it will cut you way too easy.. (been there before with windsurfing fins like this).

Once I'm used to the performance of the old dolphin shaped fin I'll swap back and see what the difference is.

DJ



DavidJohn
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13 Sep 2009 12:28am
Gorgo said...

I tend to agree hence the question. But ... how does the 14' Glide know that the 1-2' wave under it is surf or wind swell?


Rolling swells maybe.. On the shoulder of a fat wave maybe.

But any kind of breaking wave or a wave with a steep face no matter how small I'd be keeping well away from it.

DJ

JonathanC
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13 Sep 2009 12:52am
DJ, the 14' Glide certainly looked the goods today, I can see you getting much more comfortable (and faster!!) on it already.

Gorgo - you need to try out the demo 14 footer, that nose feels looong and thin as you look down on it - I agree with DJ it doesn't feel like something I'd want to be on coming into a beach break. You are welcome to try my 12'6 Starboard any time.

Out of my surfing league or experience but maybe it would work on big waves as a super big Gun - certainly has the rocker for it.
Bnaccas
Bnaccas
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13 Sep 2009 1:54am
I paddled the Naish 14fter and the 12'6" Starboard today. First time on both boards.

Both caught runners so easily (very similar) compared to other boards I have ridden (PSH 11' WAA with lots of volume & flat rocker, Naish 11'6" with heaps of volume and bent like a bananna, Starboard 11'2" with medium volume and reasonable rocker)

The Starboard nose went under a few times but wasn't a big concern, it caught me out once at the start. This board catches runners by itself and is very easy to trim and change direction in the close chop. Stability is great. Allround great board for the bay type downwinders.

The Naish caught runners maybe a fraction easier than the Starboard and stability was OK. Not as stable as the Starboard but still fine. The long nose didn't seem to go under much at all. The Naish has a lot of volume behind the mid point including a thick tail which meant it was really fast once you caught a runner. The problem with this was you ran into the back of the next wave at speed and this slows you down fast. Because of the extra volume in the tail it was harder to slow it down and sharper rails made it harder to turn. If you were going to get a bay downwinder I think this would be as good a buy as the Starboard but for different reasons.

I would assume the Naish would go amazing in open ocean paddles/downwinders where the swell/chop is further apart. The large amount of nose rocker limits the glide so it would be preferable with a good tail wind.

This is a guess but the Starboard should do pretty well also in open ocean. The flatter rocker throughout with the late nose kisk would work well and nose diving in ocean swell/chop would not be an issue. The surfability might make it more fun ride than the Naish but I would expect the Naish to be first across the line 7 out of 10 times in varied conditions.
tha dogman
tha dogman
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13 Sep 2009 2:13pm
DavidJohn said...

Gorgo said...

I tend to agree hence the question. But ... how does the 14' Glide know that the 1-2' wave under it is surf or wind swell?


Rolling swells maybe.. On the shoulder of a fat wave maybe.

But any kind of breaking wave or a wave with a steep face no matter how small I'd be keeping well away from it.

DJ




come on DJ

arent you going to let me test the 14ft'er out at the merimbula bar to see how well it draws a line in the barrel[}:)]

cant wait to see you there


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