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DavidJohn
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18 Jun 2009 9:21am
Well it was big (compared to what we've been getting lately)..and it was Wednesday.. and it was at Big Left (Flinders)..here's a few pictures from yesterday.

Driving down to the waters edge from the golf course you couldn't see much because of the fog.



I thought I'd try my DaKine impact vest that I sometimes used windsurfing (just took the spreader bar off)..

btw.. I did get one wack in the back from my board during a wipeout and it felt nice and soft.. I'm sure it would have hurt heaps without the vest.



I thought I could carry my camera around my neck and stuff it inside the vest when not using it.. It felt a bit tight and bulky but still ok.



During my first paddle out I see Ronnie drop into a nice one from out the back and I got three pics clicked off as he came past me.. I just made it over..







I've known Ronnie for a while now and he rides a Naish 11'4" like mine.





Greg was also down there and getting heaps of waves.



Here's Oliver picking off a little one.





One last picture of Ronnie looking like he's spear fishing..

DJ

WINDY MILLER
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18 Jun 2009 8:21am
4th pic did it for me....

just showed the pic to jimmy and he thinks moving back to vic may not be all that bad??????

Piros
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18 Jun 2009 10:53am
Nice size waves looks like fun.... now DJ are you starting a new Sup fashion , steamer with vest over vest plus boadies.... at least you're warm

Rob
Gorgo
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18 Jun 2009 11:22am
Just a few points:

- There was about 12 guys in the lineup including 4 SUPs.

- Everyone was friendly and there was a bit of "inter-racial" chat (mostly about the weather).

- There were enough waves that even some set waves went begging. You could surf yourself stupid without hogging the waves. Most of the short boards went for the steeper right face and the SUP and Mals did the thicker but longer left.

- It started off good at low tide then the set waves improved with the high tide.

- Ronnie probably got the best ride of the SUPs. The wave was a fairly nice set wave and he worked it well.

- I had a go on DJ's Kialoa Methane. With it I could easily catch every wave I went for, even the smaller lumps. A very light, fast and lively paddle. Switching back to my Starboard paddle I didn't notice any decrease in catching waves, but I probably expended more energy in doing it.
goatman
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18 Jun 2009 11:43am
That looks like heaps of fun!! Looks bloody cold though!
Bnaccas
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18 Jun 2009 11:46am
I might try get down this arvo. Swell still similar to yesterday but the swell "Significant period" is getting up around 15 to 20 seconds. I haven't seem that in a few years. It should be very straight, powerful and consistant.
Bnaccas
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18 Jun 2009 11:50am
Bnaccas said...

I might try get down this arvo. Swell still similar to yesterday but the swell "Significant period" is getting up around 15 to 20 seconds. I haven't seem that in a few years. It should be very straight, powerful and consistant.


Yep I rekon it's officially cold now in the water. My wetty (3/2 sealed) does a great job but my feet were getting a bit numb yesterday without booties
oliver
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18 Jun 2009 10:55am
Hmmm, Monday is looking good also, let's see if I can swing it. HT is around midday - could be a good day for western port.
Gorgo
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18 Jun 2009 1:01pm
More points:

- The Swellnet surf forecast and the surf reporter lie. They says it's flat at Westernport when you can see in the cams it is clearly pumping. That's when the surf reporter bothers to put in a report. Sometimes I think he just phones in anything he likes and stays in bed. I'm not sure this is a good thing or a bad thing.




- While the pictures shows wonderful steep faces the wave at Big Left still backs off between the sections. You have to ride out the thick bits then get onto the face again when it reforms. If you're in the wrong place you either get left behind, or smashed by the white water.



oliver
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18 Jun 2009 11:41am
The Western Port Swellnet reporter is useless - they should replace him or just get rid of the Western Port reports. No use reporting on it if the reports are consistently inaccurate - which they are.
Bnaccas
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18 Jun 2009 3:32pm
Gorgo said...

More points:

- The Swellnet surf forecast and the surf reporter lie. They says it's flat at Westernport when you can see in the cams it is clearly pumping. That's when the surf reporter bothers to put in a report. Sometimes I think he just phones in anything he likes and stays in bed. I'm not sure this is a good thing or a bad thing.

- You have to ride out the thick bits then get onto the face again when it reforms.



Gorgo/Oliver,

Were does it say Western Port will be flat? There is a small wave there today but it
says Flinders 2-3ft increasing to 3-5ft which I rekon is spot on today. I think they
have just forgotten WP.

Rule of thumb though:
- Open beaches 4-6, Flinders 2-3, WP nothing worth riding
- Open beaches 6-8, Flinders 3-5, WP 2ft+ with chance of some better ones (bigger at Suicide)
- Open beaches 8-10, Flinders 4-6 with some bigger bombs, WP 3-4 with the chance of some bombs
* halve the WP forecast on low tide

The Swellnet forecast is a peninsula forecast and is for the open beaches, flinders and WP. If it's small on open beaches they won't even mention Flinders or WP. And thats even in the WP forecast as it's just the same thing.

Also, Big Left doesn't reform. It breaks left and right and eventually ends up in deep water. I think you mean it's just a wave with some fat sections?
DavidJohn
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18 Jun 2009 3:45pm
Not a bad pic for a little point and shoot camera.

DJ

Gorgo
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18 Jun 2009 4:52pm
Bnaccas said...

Gorgo said...

More points:

- The Swellnet surf forecast and the surf reporter lie. They says it's flat at Westernport when you can see in the cams it is clearly pumping. That's when the surf reporter bothers to put in a report. Sometimes I think he just phones in anything he likes and stays in bed. I'm not sure this is a good thing or a bad thing.

- You have to ride out the thick bits then get onto the face again when it reforms.



...Were does it say Western Port will be flat? ...



Not the forecast, the daily report. It usually doesn't appear until 10-12:00 and is often very wrong. Maybe he wants to keep people away.

The Mornington Peninsula report is generally online around 8:00 wit a current photo and a reasonable assessment of the conditions.

Updated: Thu Jun 18th, 7:40am
Surf: clean 0.5ft
Wind: light N
Weather: foggy
Dawn Patrol: Not much happening this morning but a few 3 footers out on the open beaches. Might be worth fueling up the surf wagon and checking out!!!

Reform, "wave that peaks up and backs off to nothing", call it what you like. What's the technical definition of reform?

books.google.com.au/books?id=-DWQSYRx4MUC&pg=PA499&lpg=PA499&dq=reform+wave+surf&source=bl&ots=UahS2vQzFW&sig=ylXaO_XApxzuIjp0DgDHlYqC9-A&hl=en&ei=9NY5SpC3MseNkAXj64CgDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result
StKilda SUPB
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18 Jun 2009 5:18pm
Good on you guys for getting out. I've been stuck behind a computer all day!
teatrea
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18 Jun 2009 5:43pm
Love that pic where the white water is about to hit.Great angle.
mybrosweeper
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18 Jun 2009 6:30pm
Nice,thanks DJ,
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oliver
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18 Jun 2009 5:29pm
Gorgo said...


Updated: Thu Jun 18th, 7:40am
Surf: clean 0.5ft


Maybe Brooko writes those updates on Western Port from his home in Portland .
camo hosk
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18 Jun 2009 7:39pm
Good pics DJ,looks like you blokes scored some clean waves,

the swellnet reporter probably does it for nothing,
so I guess its better than nothing,
long way short of the other five though,just check the cams,

Camo.
MIKO
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18 Jun 2009 8:12pm
Good photos and commentary DJ
Like others have said it looks b....y cold
I like the Photo of Ronny with the white Water right behind, Did he eat it?
Gorgo
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18 Jun 2009 9:33pm
The wave crumbles as it backs off so the face doesn't actually drop on your head. You get a heap of white water bashing around your ankles.

You can keep your feet then track either left or right to get the next face when it builds and do it some more. When the tail of my Starboard 11'2" is back in the white water it feels like somebody has pulled on the parking brake so a little nose walking is required.

I got a really nice ride when I got caught inside. I lay on the tail of the board, got picked up by the wash, jumped to my feet and could track to the face for a bit more play. Beats paddling or trying to duck dive with a SUP tied to your leg.
champcrow
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18 Jun 2009 9:48pm
Nice one guy's.....How long were you out there for?
Brooko
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18 Jun 2009 8:36pm
oliver said...

Gorgo said...


Updated: Thu Jun 18th, 7:40am
Surf: clean 0.5ft


Maybe Brooko writes those updates on Western Port from his home in Portland .


Haha, Id love to Oliver, but I have just been to rundown with this flu Iv got at the moment to bother with anything much (even got checked for pig flu ) Only been out in the water twice in the last 8 days.

Looked like fun guys, good work Would love to have been out
Bnaccas
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18 Jun 2009 10:44pm
Gorgo said...
Not the forecast, the daily report. It usually doesn't appear until 10-12:00 and is often very wrong. Maybe he wants to keep people away.

The Mornington Peninsula report is generally online around 8:00 wit a current photo and a reasonable assessment of the conditions.

Updated: Thu Jun 18th, 7:40am
Surf: clean 0.5ft
Wind: light N
Weather: foggy
Dawn Patrol: Not much happening this morning but a few 3 footers out on the open beaches. Might be worth fueling up the surf wagon and checking out!!!

Reform, "wave that peaks up and backs off to nothing", call it what you like. What's the technical definition of reform?


Ah...to be honest I have never looked at that report (not deliberately). I always just check the real wave height bouy and go off that.
http://www.portofmelbourne.com/wavedata.asp
Once you know what the swell height observations convert to once they hit the beaches you can pretty accurately guess wave height.

I wasn't having a go about "reform" just thought you might be talking about somewhere else. Yeah reform is when wave breaks then turns back into a wave ready to break again. Big Left to me on a normal day peaks and then breaks left & right along the reef. Along the way there are some fat sections. I think we are on the same page here.

Not defending the Swellnet reporter but when he checked it (I don't rekon he physically did) average wave height was 1.06m and by lunch it was 1.72m. Thats a 2ft increase and by 3pm it was 1ft bigger again. So at the time he was probably spot on. But I'm the first to admit they are often way off the mark.

Anyone having a paddle tomorrow? Gorgo, Oli, DJ, Lobes?
STNDUP
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18 Jun 2009 10:46pm
DJ, thanks for having posted the pics! It was certainly great to catch up with you guys and catch some nice waves. You guys were riding waves for so long that when I was sitting out back it looked like you were 500 metres away. Hopefully Gorgo didnt have to pay by the wave on Wednesday as he certainly had his fill on the day! Every time I turned around I saw three guys on SUB's paddling back out around the peak, so everyone got their limit.

Miko, I think I made it around the whitewater out to the shoulder. As Gorgo said, the wave doesnt really pitch, it kind of just jacks up and then stays nice and thick. It actually breaks in a fair bit of water underneath which surprised me.

Champcrow, we paddled out about 10:45 and got out around 1:30 (roughly), so it was a good session.

It would have been heaps of fun out there on one of the new PSH guns that are floating around! I'm actually in the market for a 10'6 PSH now as I think it would suit me well..............

Thanks again for the great day guys! - Ronnie

Bnaccas
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18 Jun 2009 11:54pm
Hows the bombs coming through on the Flinders cam at 5:02pm, 5:00pm and 4:58pm.

www.triggerbrothers.com.au/index.php?option=com_webcam&Itemid=153

Use the scroll bar below the webcam. For those that don't know the camera almost 1km from the actual break.
oliver
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18 Jun 2009 10:15pm
So many waves going to waste at Flinders this afternoon.




DavidJohn
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19 Jun 2009 1:36am
MIKO said...

Good photos and commentary DJ
Like others have said it looks b....y cold
I like the Photo of Ronny with the white Water right behind, Did he eat it?


Thanks.. and No.. He didn't eat it. Ronnie (neophyteguy) rode it like a champion.

It seemed bigger than it looks in the pics.

DJ

hilly
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19 Jun 2009 12:15am
DavidJohn said...



It seemed bigger than it looks in the pics.

DJ


It always does

Lovely wave wish I was there
Gorgo
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19 Jun 2009 10:49am
On Wednesday I was out for 3 hours, Oliver and Ronnie about 2, and DJ had a bit over an hour (I think he had to go to work).

The Trigger Bros cam points straight at the break. If you can see just a little bit of white water then the wave is a ridable 1-2'. If you can see solid faces then I'm guessing the peaks are a 6'+ face and maybe 8'. The peak backs off as soon as the wave passes the outer reef to something more managable.

The Swellnet cam is a real time stream but it points about halfway between Big Left and Cyrils so the folks at home can only see you while you're waiting for waves. You can't actually see the wave.

I have to say that I've surfed off and on for decades and been pretty crap at it. I never got much good at it until longboards came along. Even then the hot guys would take all the waves. In the past a really great surf would have been 4-5 good waves in an hour.

The last few weeks on the SUP I have had more waves than I could count, taken bigger drops, had longer rides, done more stuff. In the first hour I lose count of the number of waves I get, even while being careful to leave waves and set waves for others.

Of course, Flinders is a crap wave and nobody should surf it, ever.
STNDUP
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19 Jun 2009 11:36am
Gorgo, glad that you are so stoked!

I found it funny how many good "rights" I had a place called Big Left". You definitely had your fill on Wednesday and I am sure you are chomping at the bits to get into those kinds of waves again--I know I am!

Looking forward to paddling with you again soon-Ronnie
oliver
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19 Jun 2009 9:48am
Monday is looking real good???
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