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PonoBill
PonoBill
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6 Apr 2010 4:10pm
to no particular purpose since none of these sites are commercial (yet!!). Dave Kalama's new post on his website--part deux of a three or more part series on efficient paddling--is good stuff. www.davidkalama.com Works better if you read the first part first.

Plus Bill Boyum submitted a pretty cool story to Ke Nalu about a hair raising Maliko downwinder. Having had the crap scared out of me on my last two runs it all strikes home. Also the Downwinder series I've been doing by collecting tips and scraps from everyone has now jelled into a second installment. No idea what I'm going to do to finish this one. kenalu.com/ the Boyum story is featured, the second installment is under the How-to tab, and all of em are in the news column down the right side.

Time for a redesign, I'm getting bored with the layout.

Sure has been a great winter in Maui. Big surf and lots of it, now lots of wind and epic downwinders. I've yet to get a sail out, but I've got to do that before I go home to Hood River in May. Going to be freezing my ass off in the Gorge trying to remember how to waterstart otherwise.
62mac
62mac
WA
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WA, 24860 posts
6 Apr 2010 4:13pm
Sorry Pono, we only associate pimping with hookers mate
PTWoody
PTWoody
VIC
3982 posts
VIC, 3982 posts
6 Apr 2010 6:14pm
Happy to be your john any time you have something to pimp PonoBill.
PonoBill
PonoBill
87 posts
87 posts
6 Apr 2010 4:15pm
62mac said...

Sorry Pono, we only associate pimping with hookers mate


..and?
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
6 Apr 2010 6:16pm
PonoBill said...

62mac said...

Sorry Pono, we only associate pimping with hookers mate


..and?


and ?
depending on what you buy and where you buy it - isn't it kinda the same end result.
PonoBill
PonoBill
87 posts
87 posts
6 Apr 2010 4:20pm
I spent 20 years in advertising. Pro ho.
Scotty Mac
Scotty Mac
SA
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SA, 2060 posts
6 Apr 2010 6:48pm
Hey Bill,
Are all the top racers using this technique or does it vary a lot? The top arm up looks heavy on the shoulders. Is it?
PonoBill
PonoBill
87 posts
87 posts
7 Apr 2010 7:00am
Scotty Mac said...

Hey Bill,
Are all the top racers using this technique or does it vary a lot? The top arm up looks heavy on the shoulders. Is it?


Some do, a lot don't. If you look at Aaron Napolean for example, you won't see anything like this, but if I spent ten minutes paddling like Aaron does I'd need a chiropractor. Most competitive paddlers are adopting some elements of the Tahitian stroke. It takes a long time to master, you'll be seeing it more and more.

It's hard on the shoulders at first. A big part of making the technique work is paying attention to the relaxation opportunities during recovery. I don't have that down yet, but when you watch Dave paddle his muscles are so relaxed it looks like he's not working.

Using just the elbow of the lower arm to push the paddle up to start recovery is one example. The shoulder stays relaxed, the upper arm almost dangles from the handle, you use just wrist action to feather the blade, holding and turning the handle like a knob. In contrast during a Hawaiian stroke the entire recovery takes effort. Dropping the lower arm, swinging the paddle forward, raising the upper arm back up. Constant work.

For my ancient body it's made a HUGE difference in endurance, and I can catch swells I used to struggle for. Some of that is time on the water, some is just the stroke. A year from now I'll be able to tell you better. I expect that's how long it's going to take for me to be doing the stroke well all the time.

DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
7 Apr 2010 9:27am
Bill while doing a down-winder yesterday with Jonathan we talked about this Tahitian stroke thing and the way Dave does it and I'm wondering if a larger blade is required to make it work best.

The OC Tahitians are using large blades and with the stroke being so short with the catch being the main part it seems like very soon after the catch your starting to lift and get ready for the next catch without much of the push/pull part of the stroke.

The smaller blades don't seem to give much oomph in this stroke but because you normally mix up the Hawaiian stroke with the Tahitian stroke the smaller blade seems to work better for me for the Hawaiian stroke part.

DJ

Piros
Piros
QLD
7303 posts
QLD, 7303 posts
7 Apr 2010 12:40pm
Bill another thing I have noticed with the lateset Australian made DW boards is that they getting very narrow and pointy at the front which allows more twist in your stroke giving you more reach forward to hook onto the runs.

I found on wider boards when you rotate your torso you tend to lean out so you paddle doesn't hit the board , this upsets the balance of the board and pulls you off the runs.

Rob

Lobes
Lobes
885 posts
885 posts
8 Apr 2010 9:16am
Bill as long as you're in a redesigning frame of mind what are the chances of opening up comments on your blog(s) to non members of wordpress? Couple of times I've gone to comment and being kicked out for not having a password or membership or something.

Yeah maybe I should sign up but I have a feeling I've done that once or twice already then forgotten my password

If its a problem with spam or something I understand but if its all the same it'd be good to throw it open. Maybe even give 'zone or 'breeze account holders automatic access (if thats technically possible)
CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
8 Apr 2010 12:11pm
No butt kissing, Ok a little bit but I love KeNalu. In particular the normal persons approach and experience with equipment and the pursuit of getting better.

For that matter Dave's site is great as well. The paddling technique sections are perhaps worthy of insertion to a bible of sorts. The way he articulates the theory is amazing.

I have never been a fan of the athletes but more of the craftsman behind the equipment. I am not ashamed to say that I think Dave K is my new hero.

Intelligent, humble and great at everything I love. Except for the big wave thing, I wish I was but reality stops me every time.

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