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log man
log man
VIC
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VIC, 8289 posts
12 May 2011 2:14pm
Just had a look at the goodies on offer in the "buy and sell" section. Pretty amazing really 182 ads, wow 182 second hand boards,and some seem to have been there since before white settlement. I'm surprised there are so many, and I guess this follows on from the "buy Australian" thread but are the second hand boards too expensive. There seem to be quite a few boards that the "gear junkies" might consider last years model or a bit "old school". But I'm just thinking if we can now buy a PSH with a new paddle for 1300 bucks how the hell can we expect to get 8 or 9 hundred for an old bonga or a Mistral? are these first and second generation boards going to become like the windsurf boards that gather dust under the beach shack or like the cathode ray tube TV's you see on hard garbage nights with a "It Works" sticker on. Hell, I'm not complaining about the price of SUP's going down but what was it? 2 or 3 years ago the bonga board was the weapon of choice and let's face it, it would still out perform most surfers on this site(Myself included).
Flaker
Flaker
NSW
122 posts
NSW, 122 posts
12 May 2011 4:49pm
I was looking for a second hand board, but got a new one for a spectacular price. It was cheaper than a secondhand one on the buy and sell.
There are some boards that are hardly used and people only knock $200 off RRP.
Sorry, but for an extra $200 dollars(maybe only 100) I get a warranty from a shop plus a friendly face plus discounts on other stuff(maybe).
It's gotta be a significant differnence or there is no point
The correctly priced boards go in an instant. A Coreban Icon was there for one day before it was sold. $800. New price about $1600.

I'm just wondering whats wrong with Lahui Kai boards? They are cheap yet no one wants to buy one.
micksmith
micksmith
VIC
1701 posts
VIC, 1701 posts
12 May 2011 5:54pm
I agree log man, it will definately be the same as windsurf gear, because its growing at an incredible rate and because people progress very quickly they want that better and better board, this leaves us with a glutt of second hand boards. Trouble is you think it is worth as much as you paid for it.
To get rid of something you dont want you need to ask yourself, why would anyone else want it? answer Its cheap or an absolute bargain.
WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
3183 posts
WA, 3183 posts
12 May 2011 5:32pm
about time the windsurfing gear came down in price too.

seriously 2800 for a windsurfboard made of the same but more materials than a sup - wtf !
Scotty88
Scotty88
4214 posts
4214 posts
12 May 2011 5:54pm
I bought my 1st Sup in early Feb this year. A cheap 2nd hand 11ft something for $500. When I got the hang of it (flat water paddling only-no surf) I then purchased a brand new C4 12ft soft top. Then I purchased on Seabreeze a 14ft Laird Coastrunner for $1500 which retails for around $2300. I saved $800 off retail and the board was in excellent condition. In a few months I plan on buying a 14ft Glide and by summer a Sup for the surf. That will be 5 boards in less then 9 months. Point 1: Sup is addictive. Point 2: a board will sell if it is priced to sell. point 3: Sup is addictive. "Hi my name is Scotty and I'm addicted to Sup". "Hi Scotty". Not AA but Sup anonymous.
Craig66
Craig66
NSW
2466 posts
NSW, 2466 posts
12 May 2011 8:09pm
Yep agree, price it to sell and it will.
I picked up my first board, a second had starboard last saturday morning, good price, little use. (and it comes with good back up service) Thanks Dave (well it does now )
May look to up date next summer to a smaller board but at this stage im loving getting out in small waves and actually catching some.

With you Scotty88
bownes
bownes
122 posts
122 posts
13 May 2011 4:44am
I'm just wondering whats wrong with Lahui Kai boards? They are cheap yet no one wants to buy one.


I was wondering the same...There seems to be an unatural ratio of Lahui Kai 14s for sale..Do they still have a reputation for being tippy or was that just bull..?
CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
13 May 2011 8:44am
bownes said...

I'm just wondering whats wrong with Lahui Kai boards? They are cheap yet no one wants to buy one.


I was wondering the same...There seems to be an unatural ratio of Lahui Kai 14s for sale..Do they still have a reputation for being tippy or was that just bull..?


Nothing wrong with these boards at all. They sold a lot of them, the used ratio is simply a reflection of how many they sold new. The old 12'6 was tippy for bigger riders as was probably designed for a lighter weight.

The moulded 14' Orca is a great board, fast, comfortable to paddle, versatile and very durable as is Solid glass construction. They are not super light in glass but for what they are intended for a good board for the price second hand. If I didn't have my DC14 I would get one without doubt.
bownes
bownes
122 posts
122 posts
13 May 2011 9:27am
CM****hanks for the reply...would you consider the LK orca more suited to river or ocean??

cheers
CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
13 May 2011 12:12pm
bownes said...

CM****hanks for the reply...would you consider the LK orca more suited to river or ocean??

cheers


It would be pretty good for either I'd reckon. They called it Orca as orcas are pretty good at everything.
Minkee
Minkee
QLD
225 posts
QLD, 225 posts
13 May 2011 1:06pm
It's a versatile board, it goes well everywhere you take it.

I'm selling mine (I need to revise the pricing...) but to share my experience I've used it every week at training in the creek at Currumbin and I've taken it in the ocean for a few races or just cruising. I even used it for ins and outs for a while but that's probably stretching its "enveloppe" a bit too far.
It's a solid board, maybe a bit tippy at first but nothing one can't get use to in a very short time. If it tips one side, it will go down and then stop going further down, once you get your head around that and stop over-compensating you'll be flying. From experience a board like the Javelin (which I'm using at the moment) is more tippy in the flat.
I've had the missus on it, a 120kg rugbyman as well and they all enjoyed the glide it offers in comparison to a stock sup. It's a good all all-rounder really.
Turkish
Turkish
QLD
91 posts
QLD, 91 posts
13 May 2011 1:29pm
Flaker said...

I was looking for a second hand board, but got a new one for a spectacular price. It was cheaper than a secondhand one on the buy and sell.
There are some boards that are hardly used and people only knock $200 off RRP.
Sorry, but for an extra $200 dollars(maybe only 100) I get a warranty from a shop plus a friendly face plus discounts on other stuff(maybe).
It's gotta be a significant differnence or there is no point
The correctly priced boards go in an instant. A Coreban Icon was there for one day before it was sold. $800. New price about $1600.

I'm just wondering whats wrong with Lahui Kai boards? They are cheap yet no one wants to buy one.


It was my Icon that sold in a day. Obviously I'd like to have got more for it but it did have a home made repair on the tail. More importantly I had been keeping an eye on what was selling and what wasn't and the price of second hand boards. I think if you are serious about selling a board you have to be realistic of how much you can sell it for - especially when for around the $1300 you can get a new board.

tomooh
tomooh
276 posts
276 posts
13 May 2011 12:47pm
i think all the info on the net has a big influence on secondhand prices on various boards, when you find comments like, surfed one of those , hated it , no drive, tippy, or alternatively consistently good feedback it makes a big difference to whether you would want to buy a certain board, even if it is really cheap. I know the answer is to demo and buy what feels good to you but lots of us don,t get that opportunity so finding out other peoples opinion is the best available option sometimes. The big boards suitable for learners will probably always sell if the price is right, smaller boards without a good reputation may be hard to shift. I am thinking about a cheap uber fish but the things I can find about them are not that encouraging, so maybe if its cheap enough I will just take a punt and see if it works for me. The risk is that i end up having spent nearly 2 k on 3 boards that don,t really suit me and my beginner status when i could have got one really good one first up. still at least if you buy cheap you can sell cheap later on and hopefully lose less than you would on a new board?
standupper
standupper
387 posts
387 posts
13 May 2011 1:27pm
Hey tomooh, If you are in Christchurch I know someone with an uberfish sitting in their shed which you could probably try. I think they are planning to sell it too. PM me if you are keen.

tomooh said...

i think all the info on the net has a big influence on secondhand prices on various boards, when you find comments like, surfed one of those , hated it , no drive, tippy, or alternatively consistently good feedback it makes a big difference to whether you would want to buy a certain board, even if it is really cheap. I know the answer is to demo and buy what feels good to you but lots of us don,t get that opportunity so finding out other peoples opinion is the best available option sometimes. The big boards suitable for learners will probably always sell if the price is right, smaller boards without a good reputation may be hard to shift. I am thinking about a cheap uber fish but the things I can find about them are not that encouraging, so maybe if its cheap enough I will just take a punt and see if it works for me. The risk is that i end up having spent nearly 2 k on 3 boards that don,t really suit me and my beginner status when i could have got one really good one first up. still at least if you buy cheap you can sell cheap later on and hopefully lose less than you would on a new board?


AA
AA
NSW
2167 posts
AA AA
NSW, 2167 posts
13 May 2011 3:32pm
It has also been pretty slow since March. Timing is critical when selling used boards.

I agree about the L.Kai 14' Orca (and the 12'6), they are perfectly suited for what they were designed for and that type of customer probably wont come on line until Spring. There are very few boards as versatile and as tough as these boards.
laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
13 May 2011 4:24pm
its the boards over $2000 that really get a flogging when it comes to selling secondhand
tomooh
tomooh
276 posts
276 posts
15 May 2011 6:46pm
a 9 month old starboard drive just sold at auction here on trademe for over 1700 nz , certain boards will still get a good price especially at auction as the reserve was only 1250 but there was 2 keen bidders.
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