Confessions of a Downwind Kook

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PTWoody
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16 Sep 2010 11:54pm

So I took possession of the Starboard K-15 a couple of weeks ago and it's taken 3 or 4 downwind runs to really get the hang of it. Steep learning curve, but what a brilliant board. Not that I'm particularly proficient now or even competent, but hopefully less dangerous to myself and anyone in the vicinity (check out the cut to the forehead and the nasty ankle sprain!)

Anyhow, if anyone has some advice or pointers going forward, that would be most gratefully received. Just remember, if you have to be cruel to be kind, make sure it's in the right measure.

laceys lane
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17 Sep 2010 12:32am
hi pt woody, i like it. a couple of things imho. thats a hard board, but get it right on that and you'll ride anything

also keep your feet at no more than your hips apart. i wont go into it why, but you'll go better. in the surfing stance, still keep your hips square to the board ie keep your d### pointed to the nose this will give you better control.next don't let your bottom hand go anywhere past the front of your hips. you are paddling to far behind your self and at speed it is dragging you off balance hence the dunkings. last, even thou you are paddling, keep the upper body relaxed. if you get two tents up top, your whole body becomes an unyielding unit, that's sorta why you are have to jump off when you come unstuck

but hey, you are having a red hot go and having fun. won't take too long mate

cheers
PTWoody
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17 Sep 2010 1:04am
Thanks Lacey, great tips, much obliged.
DavidJohn
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17 Sep 2010 1:07am
Jonathan flyes when he's on that board and no one can catch him.. So it's all you.. I hope that helps..

DJ
oliver
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16 Sep 2010 11:49pm
Hey Woody,

Just to add to Lacey's comments, which I think are constructive.

Do you think your paddle is the right length? It looks like it could be a bit short as you seem to look a little hunched over - maybe that's the camera angle messing with me.

Others may disagree on paddle technique, but I think you should be pushing a little more with your top arm. It looks like you are pulling much more with your lower arm.
62mac
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17 Sep 2010 5:36am
I tend to agree with Oliver,you appear to be over balancing while paddling,that paddle looks too short for you and get into surf stance quicker which should stop a lot of your falls.
laceys lane
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17 Sep 2010 8:11am
being hunched over is part of not tensing up and being relaxed. it took me a while to get this.it's a practiced art to stroke the blade and have the upper body relaxed and in a nice neutral position and let the lower body do all the balancing work. very much the same as snow skiing in that regards

a good trick is to keep is to keep checking -are my shoulders up around my ears or are they just sitting down and relaxed
cheers
Piros
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17 Sep 2010 8:15am
Thanks for putting up the video without the edits , my tips as said before feet too wide and stay away from those up turned rails , it may feel secure next them to but as soon as you rock that way you're gone. The deck also looks slippery I saw your feet slide a couple of times , maybe some wax.

Take the board out in some tiny waves in a river mouth or something when it's not choppy and practice moving up and down the board on small waves.Just keep at and in a month post another video of you on smoking runners.

Rob
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17 Sep 2010 8:51am
Hey Paul, one thing I noticed from the video is you're not using the paddle to balance yourself. You can stop yourself falling in a lot of the time if you use the resistance of the blade against the water either pulling up or pushing down.
I always keep the blade close to the water when I'm not stroking so I can quickly lean my weight on it if I need to.
Nice work with the video.
PTWoody
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17 Sep 2010 10:06am
Hi everyone and thanks for all the constructive responses. One thing that I think is probably not the problem and more likely an optical illusion caused by the GoPro lens is paddle length. This thing is 14" overhead!
angie pangi
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17 Sep 2010 10:38am
Hey PT,

Man it looks cold down there!!! That's really made me think, " i wouldn't want to fall in" LOL
It looks like you are starting to get the hang of it all. I've never been on that downwind sup but i can tell you what i know.
On my 14ft naish glide, the further back you go when on a runner the better the board goes. You really must work on getting in your surf stance and walking around on your sup. This will not only help your balance but it will prob help you stay on the runners longer aswell.
I def try to get as much blade in the water as i can. I do this by reaching very far forward (i have a mark on my 14ft where i know i should enter the paddle) but i never go past my hip.
It's all about getting the feeling of the bumps and knowing when to paddle hard and when not to paddle at all.

Strange as it seems, the less i paddle the faster i go. It's very true, after watching the hawaiian's on the maliko run, i learnt alot!!

Be realxed and have fun mate. It will all come together for you soon.

XX angie
Simondo
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17 Sep 2010 10:50am
Nice video Paul. You're a touch hard on yourself. That board obviously has a rounded hull where you stand, so it does rock around a little bit more than a flat bottom board. I think part of your perceived problem is also related the piercing nose on board sort of tripping you up, once you get on a runner.

Nice board though, nice and fast. A good all round board, but not perfectly suited to downwind planing/surfing. But a competent downwind board none the less.

Simon
Lobes
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17 Sep 2010 8:59am
I agree with Angies point about walking around. When you're trying to catch a runner you should be up closer to the nose of the board. When you feel yourself take off its time to take a few steps back. To maintain a good speed you should be walking back and forth all the time.
Newmo
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17 Sep 2010 3:24pm
Thats a sweet Vid.
I agree that surfing some little two footers somewhere will help you get the hang of turning the thing from the tail. Try and drag your paddle if you feel you are over balancing and use it to push yourself back up. If you check out DJ's vids you will see him do that often when he over balances. Try a longer paddle and see how you go. All in all you look like you are having a blast.
Oh and Chicks dig scars, so I am told.
Cheers Scott
DavidJohn
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17 Sep 2010 4:10pm
"If you check out DJ's vids you will see him do that often when he over balances."

Doh!.. I knew I should'a cut those bits out on my vids..

Yeah.. I can't paddle for more than five minutes without doing a balance check with my paddle.

It's like a training wheel and I use it all the time..

DJ
boylos
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17 Sep 2010 4:33pm


Maybe you should try and paddle this board in the summer .....would be a lot warmer!

Looked like you got the hang of it in the end .... awesome!!!!

Boylos

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