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Casso
Casso
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31 May 2009 11:21am
I've found it! ... I really think I've found it! ... I think I've found the perfect board!

Details and photos to come.
B Chambers
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31 May 2009 9:40am
Haha! If it's magic do not, I reapeat, DO NOT let it out of your grasp! Take care of it as if your life depends on it! In over 30 years of surfing I have had less than 10 "MAGIC" boards.

Good to hear you got a winner. Good on DC!

I can't wait to get my blanks in!
laceys lane
laceys lane
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31 May 2009 1:22pm
B Chambers said...

Haha! If it's magic do not, I reapeat, DO NOT let it out of your grasp! Take care of it as if your life depends on it! In over 30 years of surfing I have had less than 10 "MAGIC" boards.

Good to hear you got a winner. Good on DC!

I can't wait to get my blanks in!


casso, i,ve just come in from a surf on my dc 8 10. a guy i know, who is a long boarder, said to me do not let that board go. his words were you are the only guy i've seen fully surfing a standup. way over the top, but makes you think. now i don't know what to do,i was going to replace it with a more customized one seeing as it was a demo board.
loco4olas
loco4olas
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31 May 2009 5:03pm
Casso said...

I've found it! ... I really think I've found it! ... I think I've found the perfect board!

Details and photos to come.


I can vouch for Casso surfing very well on the DC808 this morning in a lumpy bumpy right hand shorey-didn't get to touch his new beauty-where's the pixs?
Casso
Casso
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1 Jun 2009 10:27am
Blane - don't worry, I won't be letting this one go in a hurry.

Lacey - that's a way cool little story.

Loco4olas - thanks mate, very tricky conditions but the 8'8" made even that crap really fun. Photos will come when this bloody rain stops.
Casso
Casso
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1 Jun 2009 10:28am
I got the call informing me that the board had finally arrived in Sydney after its long journey from the Gold Coast. I was stuck at work and knew I wouldn't be able to check it out until later that evening. Ahhh - killer. Hard to focus on work that afternoon! When I did eventually get home, I wasn't to be disappointed...

One Word: Woohoo.

The board is 8'8" x 29" x 4".

If you were a little distance away when you first saw this board and your perspective was a bit out, you could be excused for thinking that this board was just standard shortboard. It is truly a shortboard shape and it's not until you see it a bit closer and can relate its size to something else, that you might think that ... hang on, that's a really big short board ... oh, it's a SUP.

The plan shape is very similar to the DC 8'10" with a really nice pulled in nose and clean flowing lines down the rails, no hips or flyers, just nice curves. I got Dale to swap the swallow tail on the 8'10" to a rounded square for this one - trying to simulate one of Parko's shortboards (they seem to go alright!). It came out looking unreal. I got the nose lifted another half inch, the tail width reduced an inch and the tail lifted an eighth. I was trying to move from the semi fish of the 8'10" to a true shortboard for the 8'8". Dale interpreted these changes perfectly and now we have the DC 8'8" - an absolute cracker.

Like the DC 8'10", the 8'8" still has those nice performance oriented rails and slightly rolled deck - great for burying and not bogging on those carving turns on the face. The reduced volume in the rails males the board a little wobbly but it also means that little bits of chop break over the rails and don't bounce into them. The result is a less corky feel and therefore quite doable in heavy chop (which I've already been out in on this board).

The 8'8" has that same, nice pro-tech finish which makes it look like a pro's board and reduces the weight caused by an extra gloss coat (this board weighed in at 7.8 kg - without grip or fins).

I also got Dale to throw five sets of FCS plugs in it - so we have a multitude of fin options to play with. I haven't gotten past the straight thruster set up yet (running Occys all-round) as this works so well but one day I'll have a play with some different setups - keen to try it as a quad or even big twin fins with a baby trailer.

I love a good recessed handle - even in smaller boards, so I got Dale to pop one of these in too. Woohoo.

So that's some of the theory, now let's see how it rides.

to be continued...

champcrow
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1 Jun 2009 10:05am
Pic's mate...........Please
Casso
Casso
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1 Jun 2009 5:11pm
The story (review) continues...

I found a nice little bank at Palmy, the next morning after getting the board. A light to medium off-shore wind was feathering the head high sets and there was only one other guy out for most of the session. Racing down the beach, keen as mustard, thinking I'm as cool as Luke Egan with my tiny pro model board under my arm, I trip on my legrope and nearly go 'a' over 't' - man if I can't even get to the water's edge without losing balance how am I going to rode this thing. I throw it in the water, jump on and take a few strokes. Phew. I can balance on it and paddle it. I didn't order it too small. It doesn't track the best with only three or four stokes on each side before needing to swap hands - but that's a payoff you need to expect with a performance board of this calibre. You don't want this type of board to track straight when you are on a wave.

Punching through white water is an absolute pleasure with the good amount of nose lift and pulled in front end just popping over walls of foam with the greatest of ease. Trying to keep your balance in the soup after the wave has passed is another thing however, but I did OK, albeit a bit slow to get moving again after the wave had passed.

I waited a while for my first wave, wanting to get myself a good one for first impressions sake. It came and yes it was a good one. A really good one. Probably the biggest I got all morning and a really good shape. I swung around after spotting it and was surprised at how quickly and easily the 8'8" was to get heading in the opposite direction. So quickly so, that in fact I had spin around too far and wouldn't of been able to take the drop straight on. I had to quickly swap hands and paddle a bit in the other direction to straighten up. This made everything a bit late but the little DC handled the steeper than expected drop very well (with that good amount of nose rocker coming into play again). I faded a bit a leaned onto the bottom turn. Now, I thought Dale had put the fin plugs in a weird position (quite far up the board) so I was a bit cautious as how much I'd be able to push it into a big bottom turn. As of turns out he knew exactly what he was doing as the board carved off the bottom beautifully with no slip at all. It's obviously using the rail for these types of turns and not relying just on the small fins. I should've had more faith in the man.

So now I'm presented with a little crumbling bit of foam about ten metres in front of me. Some of my other boards wouldn't have let me fit in a quick speed pump and little bottom turn before whacking that bit of foam but the agility of the DC let me do just that. I guess this is a combination of the lightness and manoeuvrability of this performance oriented board. So instead of hitting the lip with just the speed I already had, the little DC gave me the opportunity to gather more speed and come at the lip from a better direction. With this I hit the white water with more power and control - really smacking it and whipping the board around into a nice layback snap. Boy that first big turn felt great. It was at this point (first turn, first wave) that I fell on love with this board. Big call, I know but I really do think it is love!

Because this wave was breaking on the other bank, there was a big gutter between the main section of the wave and the reform on the shore. I wasn't expecting much from such a little board and just planned on riding the outer break - I wasn't on my twelve footer with plenty of glide now was I? As the wave died out I decided to see how far I could get on the DC 8'8". Even though the wave had stopped breaking, there was still about three feet of swell moving though the gutter so by putting the board on rail and carving into a series of swooping cutbacks I was able to stay on this unbroken wave. Wow - this was amazing. The little DC actually generated heaps of speed just by doing these slow, drivey turns - it felt great. I was able to continue these all the way in until the wave started to peak up again on the shorey. It doesn't have a lot of glide like bigger boards and you don't really trim the board on the wave face but a few of these slow, power carves will get you through all kinds of dead sections. Unreal.

With quite a heavy, sucky closeout on the shore, the short length of the 8'8" now came into play. Dropping down the reforming peak on an angle and then pumping along the face a bit got me going at a tremendous pace. No sign of any nose diving or rail bogging on this sucky wall. I hop up onto the closing out lip and run along the top of it, floating for what seemed like forever. A subtle change of direction and the speed that the little DC had generated made it easy to skim down the white water, over the trough and down onto the flat section in front of the wave. Really clean with heaps of speed. A very nice manoeuvre - all credit given to the capabilities of the board (not me).

Some of the other waves I got that morning included some almost vertical forehand re-entries (those ones where you seem to come back down same path that you originally climbed up the face), a couple of nice backhand foam bounces off the closed out white water (a very good testament to the agility of the board) and a really nice, fin release, tail waft over a crumbling lip.

Overall, this board is fast, drivey and manoeuvrable with true shortboard performance qualities. An absolute pleasure to ride, especially for a (now ex) shortboarder.

Highs:
- Light weight.
- Super fast.
- Carves really well.
- Snaps really well.
- Surprisingly good stability.
- Hard to nose dive.
- Has a carry handle.
- Fully Australian made.

Lows:
- A few dirty marks and cosmetic imperfections under the glass (but this one was a rushed prototype).

goatman
goatman
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1 Jun 2009 5:44pm
Casso, that boards sounds sic!!!
laceys lane
laceys lane
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1 Jun 2009 5:48pm
casso, looks like the cats out of the bag now
cheers
ps dale had a go on mine today

mybrosweeper
mybrosweeper
NSW
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1 Jun 2009 6:48pm
Goodonyamate,but hey,with all the bloody GOPRO's youve got we want some pic's and footage!!!!!! I want to see this thing in action.Epoxy? Show us the gripart?
Robboooooooo
DavidJohn
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1 Jun 2009 7:03pm
Yeah Casso.. Pictures.. We need pictures..

DJ
Homeally
Homeally
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1 Jun 2009 7:44pm
CASSO!!!! MAATTTEE!!! BUDDY O PAL!!!!
ummm... ahhh.... eeeeekkk.... aaahhhh... any chance i could give the SUP a surf... maybe saturday? 11.20 sounds good if your around .. HAHAHAHA!!!!

Dude!! board sound sick! cant wait to see the footage!

Cya Saturday if not before!

Matty
Casso
Casso
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1 Jun 2009 9:53pm
You wanted pics ... here are some pics ... and don't go tellin' me there are too many pics ...

Plan shape and grip art:


Nose:


Front:


Back:


Rocker:


Nose lift:


Rail foil:


Recessed handle:


Freehand pinline art and Gortex air vent:


Weird looking but very effective fin placement with multiple combination options:


Signature and specs:


Happy boy:


laceys lane
laceys lane
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1 Jun 2009 9:57pm
great idea the deck grip inside the handle

camo hosk
camo hosk
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1 Jun 2009 10:50pm
The board looks great Casso,
your an expert at deck gripping now,
where do you get all the grip material from?
Cheers,
Camo.
Gorgo
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2 Jun 2009 11:18am
Tsk, tsk, tsk. You forgot to get FCS mounts in the deck for your camera.
Casso
Casso
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2 Jun 2009 12:31pm
Gorgo said...

Tsk, tsk, tsk. You forgot to get FCS mounts in the deck for your camera.

LOL - yeah, and the rolled deck is causing problems with my sucker mount which needs a flat surface.

You guys are getting sick of seeing me from that angle anyway (probably sick of seeing me in general).

I'm sure somebody will be filming at the Snowy comp this weekend - so you might be able to see it in action after that.
Casso
Casso
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2 Jun 2009 12:34pm
camo hosk said...

where do you get all the grip material from?

A combination of new sheets and off-cuts. Some from Dale's factory and some from AA's garage. The beauty of this style of grip is that you can use whatever scrap bits you can find, big or small - just make sure it's got good quality glue on the back.
Homeally
Homeally
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2 Jun 2009 1:00pm
Casso said...

Gorgo said...

Tsk, tsk, tsk. You forgot to get FCS mounts in the deck for your camera.

LOL - yeah, and the rolled deck is causing problems with my sucker mount which needs a flat surface.

You guys are getting sick of seeing me from that angle anyway (probably sick of seeing me in general).

I'm sure somebody will be filming at the Snowy comp this weekend - so you might be able to see it in action after that.


I hope so! need some good pics of the NSW SUPers in action.... HAHA!!.... oh hey.. did you ever upload the footage from pittwater the other weekend?... man that was such a fun session... my legs were stuffed afterwards though! haha

Matty
Casso
Casso
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2 Jun 2009 1:19pm
Homeally said...

did you ever upload the footage from pittwater the other weekend?... man that was such a fun session... my legs were stuffed afterwards though! haha

Yeah - it went up that night. Check it out on the PSH 12' Gun thread:
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=51308&whichpage=2&replies=78&PageSize=30&mxPages=3
loco4olas
loco4olas
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2 Jun 2009 3:31pm
Nice looking board-makes me want to flick the new PSH 903 R for one of em'.

You missed the one shot I wanted and that's the foil and rocker-particularity interested in the nose/tail foil.

goatman
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2 Jun 2009 3:49pm
Same here.
Casso
Casso
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2 Jun 2009 3:53pm
loco4olas said...

You missed the one shot I wanted and that's the foil and rocker-particularity interested in the nose/tail foil.

Those shots looking down the rail aren't good enough? Or do you mean the nose and tail thickness (not rail foil)?

I'm sure you'll see it in the flesh soon enough. It'll be down at the Snowy (Manly) all day on Saturday if you're planning on stopping by. It might even be there on Sunday too - but that depends on me making it through my first heat!
loco4olas
loco4olas
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2 Jun 2009 3:57pm
Casso said...

loco4olas said...

You missed the one shot I wanted and that's the foil and rocker-particularity interested in the nose/tail foil.

Those shots looking down the rail aren't good enough? Or do you mean the nose and tail thickness (not rail foil)?

I'm sure you'll see it in the flesh soon enough. It'll be down at the Snowy (Manly) all day on Saturday if you're planning on stopping by. It might even be there on Sunday too - but that depends on me making it through my first heat!


Nah foil rather than thickness, and full rocker shot-I might see you Sunday
Casso
Casso
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2 Jun 2009 4:35pm
Hmmm. Don't mean to make a big thing about it - but what is the foil on a board?

I always thought it was how rolled over the rails are, as in:
- "those rails are nicely foiled"
- "the edge of that board (the rail) looks like an air-foil on an aeroplane wing"
- "I just finished foiling the rails on that blank"

Discuss.
goatman
goatman
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2 Jun 2009 4:40pm
"A surfboard's foil relates to how its thickness is distributed lengthwise from nose to tail" Quote from web.

This was always my understanding as well.
rodriguez
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2 Jun 2009 4:56pm
Agreed
goatman said...

"A surfboard's foil relates to how its thickness is distributed lengthwise from nose to tail" Quote from web.

This was always my understanding as well.


goatman
goatman
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2 Jun 2009 5:00pm
It also gives the all important side view that incorporates the rocker!
Casso
Casso
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2 Jun 2009 5:16pm
Ohh, OK, so it's like:
- "that board's foiled out nicely through the tail"
- "the nose on that board isn't foiled enough for my liking"

I assume: more foil = thinner, less foil = thicker (as go back towards the tail or forward to the nose).
laceys lane
laceys lane
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2 Jun 2009 5:55pm
lacey said...

Casso said...

Ohh, OK, so it's like:
- "that board's foiled out nicely through the tail"
- "the nose on that board isn't foiled enough for my liking"

I assume: more foil = thinner, less foil = thicker (as go back towards the tail or forward to the nose).


i think he means where is the thickness.is the thicker part centre, forward a little or back a little.this includes tail and nose thickness this looking at from the side rail
i think
cheers



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