Fin screw help

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Dash
Dash
NSW
44 posts
NSW, 44 posts
15 Nov 2013 11:27am
After all the positive talk about the Jackson Close fins I pulled the trigger and bought some.

Went to take the stock fins out and it seems the screws have been overtightened to the point that the fin key just spins and doesn't grip the screw.

Couple of questions for anyone that can help. Can you buy new screws for future fins? Also, any tips on getting the screws out without causing any damage?

Can't go back to the shop I bought the board from as it's too far away.
MickMc
MickMc
VIC
456 posts
VIC, 456 posts
15 Nov 2013 11:38am
Hopefully you haven't damaged the screw heads too much. If so I'm no help. However you may just need to get a new fin key. My last fanatic board (2013 model) had a minute difference between the size of the screws on the centre fin from the side fins. I had to use two different keys to get them out. The key that worked on the side fins would just spin around in the screw head of the centre fin, but trying another key that was minutely bigger worked perfectly on it. Good luck!
Piros
Piros
QLD
7303 posts
QLD, 7303 posts
15 Nov 2013 11:07am
As MickMc said it's more than likely your fin key , FSC , Futures & Fanatic are all slightly different and Naish is alot different. So start with the right key or go and get a proper Allen ket set. If they are stuffed go and get an “Easy Out” from you local nut and bolt shop (or Super Cheap Auto) that will fix it and while you are there buy the replacement screws.
Dash
Dash
NSW
44 posts
NSW, 44 posts
15 Nov 2013 12:23pm
Thanks for the replies. It's a fanatic board and I'm trying a futures key so that could be the problem. Will try a couple of others.
cameron2156
cameron2156
WA
149 posts
WA, 149 posts
15 Nov 2013 9:56am
try size one up think its 1/4 in size usually works as fin keys are 1/8
Piros
Piros
QLD
7303 posts
QLD, 7303 posts
15 Nov 2013 12:48pm
" It's a fanatic board and I'm trying a futures key "

Bingo....
PeterP
PeterP
873 posts
873 posts
15 Nov 2013 3:10pm
Some of the boxes coming out of China use Metric Allen keys, most boxes (original FCS) use Imperial Allen keys - I always make sure I have one of each in the car.....
micksmith
micksmith
VIC
1701 posts
VIC, 1701 posts
15 Nov 2013 6:24pm
My wife would use a hammer for sure
SUPSMURF
SUPSMURF
NSW
164 posts
NSW, 164 posts
16 Nov 2013 12:13am
Hi Dash I've had the same issue with my Hobie. The solution that worked for me was to superglue the fin key into the screw. Once it set I could remove it no worries. Sure you sacrifice a screw and key but they can be replaced for bugger all.
Good luck.
ausiet
ausiet
WA
63 posts
WA, 63 posts
15 Nov 2013 9:36pm
Another suggestion for getting screws out......

use a flat elastic band, place it over the offending screw, jam the allen key/screw driver into the slot, then turn.

Has worked for me in the past and doesn't damage the screw or driver/key.

Aramathorn
Aramathorn
VIC
117 posts
VIC, 117 posts
16 Nov 2013 10:25pm
I had a bugger of a screw to remove, but luckily there was no fin in and I ended up using an oversized drill bit which, after it finally caught, screwed right through and dropped it in the fin box. By the sound of it, your fin is still in place, which of course makes the job a lot harder. Also, as I learned the hard way, 'easy out' drill bits are great but very very fragile, especially when they get down to the size you need to get out a grub screw. If you go that route, be very patient and go slow with very mild pressure. It will take awhile, but should work well once drilled far enough in place. I tried the 'easy out' method with the already mentioned screw, and was drilling for ages and slowly but surely, added more and more pressure until the bit snapped off in the grub screw. That was when I used the oversized drill bit. I had also tried the glue method first off, but the screw was so stripped it didn't work.

let us know how you do eventually get it out.
wazza66
wazza66
QLD
622 posts
QLD, 622 posts
17 Nov 2013 10:07pm
Try a few different fin keys firstly .
If no luck superglue a fin key into the screw hole and gently unscrew. Both ways have worked for me in the past.
Good luck
Dash
Dash
NSW
44 posts
NSW, 44 posts
17 Nov 2013 11:15pm
All good, used a metric allen key and it worked a treat
colas
colas
5385 posts
5385 posts
23 Nov 2013 8:23pm
Just check that there is no garbage (foam dust, sand, drop of resin) in the botttom of the grub screw hole. It happens quite often, ans then the key is not inserted properly and get damaged. I scrape the inside of my screws with a needle on all my new boards.

FCS and Future keys are made of a soft metal so that the key get damaged, not the screw, in case of problem. Just using a standard allen key will be enough to get the screw out.
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