First race/downwind board

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ToddP
ToddP
3 posts
3 posts
12 Apr 2016 7:08pm
Hi. After a recent knee injury (torn acl) And looking at a long stint out of the waves. I've decide to get a race board, probably a 14fter.
I've got 20yrs experience surfing a shortboard and 2yrs experience surfing a 9' by 29" surfing sup. I'm 79kgs, 5'7 tall. Was mainly wondering how wide a board would I need to get to suit my size and ability? I'd like to start racing so I want something fast but I don't wanna be falling off constantly if I do a downwinder. I don't really want to spend more then 2k for a first board. would I be better of buying a slightly older carbon board or a newer non carbon board? Would I even notice the difference? Any board recommendations? And does anyone know if my knee would even handle a downwind run?
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
12 Apr 2016 9:48pm
I'd say something around 14x 28" (like my Jav) and no need for carbon unless lifting it onto your car is an issue.

26" wide should even be do'able and I'd be picking one of the newer shapes.. Where are you.. Do you have local shops that can offer advise and demo boards for you to try?

Your knee should be fine for downwinding..
ToddP
ToddP
3 posts
3 posts
12 Apr 2016 8:17pm
Thanks for the advice. I live near coffs. As far as I know there is nowhere that stocks that kind of board around here. Think I'll have to do a trip up to the Gold Coast. But wanna have a bit of an idea what I want when I get up there.
How does getting a demo work? Do you have to book it in and they take you to a local creek for a 5min paddle. Or do you just rock up and they let you take the board yourself and go for an hr or so?
baddog
baddog
256 posts
256 posts
12 Apr 2016 11:10pm
Used and 26" wide.
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
3378 posts
QLD, 3378 posts
13 Apr 2016 5:46am
Hi Todd if you do come up to the goldy we have a few demo boards that might suit which you can try anytime no need to book. If you have good balance and at your weight you should be right on a 26 wide board no worries but if you are coming to demo then this is something you will feel for your self.

Jacko@ gold coast sup
Markmyword
Markmyword
QLD
55 posts
QLD, 55 posts
13 Apr 2016 7:03am
If you are coming up to the Goldy you could travel another hour up to Brisbane and joins us for one of our BrisSup club days. There are plenty of boards that people are only too happy to let you have a paddle of to try. Also there are always people selling second hand boards so you might even pick up a bargain. Just have a look at our facebook page for club dates.
Hawaiiheke
Hawaiiheke
319 posts
319 posts
13 Apr 2016 5:28am
I've got 20yrs experience surfing a shortboard and 3yrs experience surfing a 10' by 29" surfing sup. Two torn knee cartilages on RHS. I'm 90kgs, 6'4" tall....so a little bit similar.

My first race board was/is a 27.25 V2 Bullet and when I first jumped on the sucker I thought I was gonna be fine but was shocked at how different it was and struggled a bit (and still do a bit in rough conditions).

I'm with DJ. Get an older cheapie 28" board and then, once you've developed your lower leg reflexes and really got to grips with the DWing then trade up to something narrower I reckon. The easier it is at the outset the more you'll do it and the faster you'll improve for an upgrade.

Can't help on the ACL side of things.

Good luck with that!
Themoke
Themoke
QLD
50 posts
QLD, 50 posts
13 Apr 2016 9:47am
Hi Todd If you are going to do a trip to the Goldy make sure you check out Surf FX They have a wide range of boards & if you let them know you are coming they have a trailer full of race board demos you can try.
magillamelb
magillamelb
VIC
627 posts
VIC, 627 posts
13 Apr 2016 10:10am
Todd, try a DC 14x28. great all-round board or something like a Starboard Allstar...
NSW, 33 posts
13 Apr 2016 10:51am
Hi Todd, we've got some Blue Planet flatwater (Californian Race Dark Horse) and downwinders (Molokai Bump Rider) at JM Sup Co at the Gold Coast if you're up that way check them out
Slab
Slab
1125 posts
1125 posts
13 Apr 2016 12:27pm
This "go narrower" trend doesn't work for many. I agree with DJ , 28 would be about right to start with.....DWing is all technique starting with balance first.
R4H
R4H
NSW
65 posts
R4H R4H
NSW, 65 posts
13 Apr 2016 2:53pm
For your experience and weight I'd say something around 26" would be fine, it may take a little adjusting to get used to and a 28" wide board will be immediately more comfortable but going narrower will be faster and more rewarding in the long run.

I was keen on doing a bunch of flat-water training for fitness and to drop a bit of weight and took a punt on a 14'0"x 25" pure flat-water board, the first time I paddled it I thought "what have I done" and it did take me a while to get used to it but now I feel very comfortable even in crap conditions and feel I have become a much better all round paddler because of it.

Carbon V Other Constructions (As there are quite a few): To me it really depends on the manufacturer and whether they are looking to make the lightest possible race board purely for racing/team members to get on the podium (and sell more boards because of it) or a lighter construction race board that also offers durability for the general public. I had a very well known brand 14'0" board in full carbon that was great to paddle, felt great under the feet was easy to transport etc. but you only had to look at it and it cracked, I've still got it and love paddling it, so probably won't get rid of it, but it has been sitting on a shelf waiting for repair for the past summer and unless they have changed their manufacturing I would never buy another one again. I've now got three carbon boards from the same manufacturer and wouldn't go back, they aren't as light as my previous carbon boards but lighter than epoxy and IMHO just as strong.

As for your knee: I haven't ever done and acl (and hope I never do) but I did have all of my cartilage removed from the right compartment of my right knee in May last year and it took me a while to get back to my best, but all I can recommend is find a good physio, do the work stick to the rehab program religiously build up the muscles around the knee and you should be fine. If stability in the knee is in doubt go for a wider board and sell it later for a narrower one when you have got all the strength back.

Check out this vid RE: Race boards and weights.





ToddP
ToddP
3 posts
3 posts
13 Apr 2016 7:37pm
Thanks everyone for taking the time to comment. I appreciate the advice.
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