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waxer
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12 May 2013 6:48pm
Gday all.Interested in getting a gopro with a board mount,but totally confused by the seemingly endless types and models etc.Can anyone narrow it down a bit for me,not needing all the bells and whistles.....Cheers
DavidJohn
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12 May 2013 8:50pm
IMO you can't go wrong with the GoPro 3 silver.

As far as a board mount goes just save the black square plastic base that the camera comes mounted to in the box and use duct tape to stick the plate to the board.. and make sure you tie a small block of foam or something floaty to the back of the camera.. just in case.

DJ
waxer
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13 May 2013 9:10am
Thanks DJ
Piros
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13 May 2013 10:08am
+1 Silver
Goochi
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13 May 2013 11:20am
Good question!
It seems the only difference between white and silver is the camera 4MP vs 11MP? The video seems the same. If you're not going to take photos, but mostly video is it worth the $$ to go from white to silver?
DavidJohn
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13 May 2013 2:33pm
Goochi said..

Good question!
It seems the only difference between white and silver is the camera 4MP vs 11MP? The video seems the same. If you're not going to take photos, but mostly video is it worth the $$ to go from white to silver?


I was wondering the same thing.. Untill someone recently told me (don't know if it's true) that the white is the same as the old GoPro 1 and the silver is the same as the GoPo 2.

I have both the 1 and the 2 and the 2 is so much better.. Especially in low light.

So if that is true I would pay the little bit extra to get the silver.

Where's Rambo when you need him..

DJ

Goochi
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13 May 2013 1:05pm
Hi DJ
Is the silver Go Pro the one you use in all your recent clips - with the slo mo?
I can't see any difference on the Go Pro web site between white and silver (aside from MP for still photos)- but I'm not the best with camera tech specs.
Piros
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13 May 2013 3:26pm
There is no doubt the Black is the best not just in stills but it also has a better processor and better low light performance. The old Hero HD is basically the White and the Silver fits in between. If you don't want to film in full HD (takes alot of computer power) no point going the black. The remote works on all three cameras.

I always shoot in 1080 x 50p (that's Full HD at 50 frames per second and is PAL format,60p in NTSC) the white can't this only 720 x 50p but the silver can. The reason I shoot in this is because I mix shots in with my other pro cameras. You really don't need to shoot on these settings to get really good footage. The 50p setting is what will give the smooth slomo when you slow it down without using additional software. If you just want to post vids here on the Breeze without slomo 720 x 25p is fine. No need for the Black to do that.

I also have a Sony Action cam and the Ion , they won't match the Black. Sony costs the same as the Black and the Ion is about the same as the White cost wise and performance wise. Both the Sony and Ion have serious focusing issues underwater , the way Gopro has solved this is the new flat lens .Both the Sony & Ion have round lens and thats why they can't focus properly underwater. In summary if you can afford the Black buy it , it's the best but if bucks are tight the Silver or White are both great cameras.

Here is a couple of videos test videos I did to compare the White vs the Black at the same settings.The first is the white shot in really good light the second is the Black shot in late afternoon , the White would have grained out in the second video.

P.S I have nothing to do with Gopro.....

Gopro White 1080 x 25p



Gopro Black 1080 x 25p

aus301
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13 May 2013 4:01pm
I have a GoPro black, I figured that by the time I buy the silver and add the wireless control that is included with the black, I might as well just get the black. This way you get the extra power for only a few extra $$$. Only really a valid argument however if you were considering getting the wireless control.

Once you start playing with HD video you will like the quality, but will also very quickly find the limitations in your home computer. So keep that in mind when you buy. All well and good to buy the cam with the best quality, but it's waste if you can't use the quality because your home computer isn't up to it.
FlyingKiwi
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13 May 2013 5:57pm
The Black has endless problems, massive amounts, and features that can't be used with existing TV technology, another vote for the Silver, also it has the wireless feature if you wanted that - another difference to the White, and DJ I heard the same thing re the technology in the camera, the silver from what I hear is a step up from the 2 with the white being the same spec as the 2.

would have perfered the silver to have 120fps at 720p too but you can't have everything, I would not go the black camera.

Piros
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13 May 2013 6:04pm
My first black was a lemon but the new software download has fixed the problems.
Goochi
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13 May 2013 4:19pm
Piros said..
There is no doubt the Black is the best not just in stills but it also has a better processor and better low light performance. The old Hero HD is basically the White and the Silver fits in between. If you don't want to film in full HD (takes alot of computer power) no point going the black. The remote works on all three cameras.
I always shoot in 1080 x 50p (that's Full HD at 50 frames per second and is PAL format,60p in NTSC) the white can't this only 720 x 50p but the silver can. The reason I shoot in this is because I mix shots in with my other pro cameras. You really don't need to shoot on these settings to get really good footage. The 50p setting is what will give the smooth slomo when you slow it down without using additional software. If you just want to post vids here on the Breeze without slomo 720 x 25p is fine. No need for the Black to do that.
I also have a Sony Action cam and the Ion , they won't match the Black. Sony costs the same as the Black and the Ion is about the same as the White cost wise and performance wise. Both the Sony and Ion have serious focusing issues underwater , the way Gopro has solved this is the new flat lens .Both the Sony & Ion have round lens and thats why they can't focus properly underwater. In summary if you can afford the Black buy it , it's the best but if bucks are tight the Silver or White are both great cameras.
Here is a couple of videos test videos I did to compare the White vs the Black at the same settings.The first is the white shot in really good light the second is the Black shot in late afternoon , the White would have grained out in the second video.
P.S I have nothing to do with Gopro.....Gopro White 1080 x 25p
Gopro Black 1080 x 25p



Thanks Piros, great info
aus301
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13 May 2013 7:17pm
maybe I got lucky as I have had no issues with my black at all.
paul.j
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13 May 2013 8:20pm
Nice quad chopper piros! ! When I learn time fly mine properly maybe we can have quad wars
62mac
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13 May 2013 6:40pm
aus301 said..

maybe I got lucky as I have had no issues with my black at all.


not so lucky mine likes to freeze from time to time
Piros
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13 May 2013 8:42pm
paul.j said..

Nice quad chopper piros! ! When I learn time fly mine properly maybe we can have quad wars


Here is some good advice Jacko , take a bit more time to learn to fly it more than me (3 days) I was shooting Jackson at Snapper on it and it went up above the headland , the wind got it and I never saw it again..... I get my new one next week it has more power to deal with the wind , but yeah bring on the Copter wars. One more thing on the Copters they are classed as a drone and you are required to hold a Casa license , which is pretty full on. I'm looking into it now and will pass on the info when I get it.

Re the Gopro Black freeze do another download of the firmware should fix it.
paul.j
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13 May 2013 8:51pm
Haha funny, miles a turbo ace and worth a bit, I have had it for quite some time just learning how it all works. When I read up on yours I thought it might struggle out in the wind and getting to far away. Yeah heard about the laws and stuff but where I will fly mine won't be out on the points around here as I'm sure **** could go wrong quick!!
gregc
gregc
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13 May 2013 9:23pm
I have the Black, the software it came with was rubbish but the firmware update pretty much fixed everything. Quality of pic is superb. Didnt I see somewhere someone saying that they only film in 720 and keep all the shots 'light' (I actually have no idea what that means but it sounds good).


waxer
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13 May 2013 9:51pm
Thanks to everyone ,beginning to get a better idea what I need.Good tip re the home computer,mine is in technical terms old and slow,so this is going to limit what I can do ,unless I upgrade the pc.Where do you stop?.The input from everyone much appreciated,love the Quad copter (unsure of its description),looks like another toy I would enjoy.....Cheers
Piros
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13 May 2013 10:27pm
Re the computer just get an iMac you will need nothing more , buy it from an Apple store and pay the extra $100 an get years free unlimited training , that is Gold.
gregc
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13 May 2013 10:30pm
or a mac book pro, then get Final Cut Pro X, then get multiple cameras and a whole box load of mounts, then go 3 D.................... ooops sorry got carried away. I need a little lie down
aus301
aus301
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2039 posts
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14 May 2013 7:01am
Piros said..

Re the computer just get an iMac you will need nothing more , buy it from an Apple store and pay the extra $100 an get years free unlimited training , that is Gold.


if you do buy one make sure you get ram... and plenty of it. Oh and a big fast external hard drive to store your work.

Just buy ram from MaxFixIt.com, about 1/3 the price of getting it from Apple.
62mac
62mac
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14 May 2013 6:01am
Thanks Piros camera updated
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