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Tommy123
Tommy123
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23 Jan 2013 4:37pm
Hey im only new to using a sup. I've got a dodgy old graffiti board Ive mucked around on enough to want to buy a new board. I see on the surfboard warehouse the halo Atlantis is quite cheap and looks awesome. Anyone used these boards? I want it for fishing and surfing. Any advice on what size to get would help too. Cheers
AndyR
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23 Jan 2013 8:15pm
I purchased one in December and have used it heaps. I have the 11foot, I rate it as a great board for someone not wanting to spend an extra $600 or so, I mainly use it for ocean paddling and have surfed it a couple of times in small waves.

I wouldn't feel the 11foot would be stable enough for fishing though. But then again I'm not sure how stable you need a board to be to fish from.
Gassa
Gassa
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23 Jan 2013 9:14pm
go for the 11 footer i have one and its a good all-rounder and stable as all ****e
excellent board for the price I surf mine with an extra large single fin, nose rides as good as the more expensive ones
Tommy123
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23 Jan 2013 9:25pm
Haha yeah I don't know how much balance I need to fish either. Thanks for the advice I think I'll have to buy one
CMC
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23 Jan 2013 9:43pm
Or spend another $200 or $300 and have a board that lasts forever or you can sell when it's time to progress and get most of your money back.
DarthSUP
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23 Jan 2013 9:25pm
here we go.. The old debate shall rage on starting....


Now.
Sandsy1
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24 Jan 2013 11:01am
Tommy123 said...

Hey im only new to using a sup. I've got a dodgy old graffiti board Ive mucked around on enough to want to buy a new board. I see on the surfboard warehouse the halo Atlantis is quite cheap and looks awesome. Anyone used these boards? I want it for fishing and surfing. Any advice on what size to get would help too. Cheers


Hi Tommy,
Just a thought. I bought my wife a 12' (they also come in 11') ASX SUP. We got it from our local shop for $1045 and it includes their own carbon fibre paddle. I have had a go in some small waves and it goes really well. They are a good epoxy finish and are a nice looking board. The ASX paddle is a good paddle, my wife uses my adjustable Fanatic and I'm using the ASX. Worth a look.
Cheers
Sandsy1
paul.j
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24 Jan 2013 11:15am
If you are going to spend around the $1000 mark then you would have to buy NSP Element !! pretty much better in every way, you will have a resale value if you ever wanted to sell it which i doubt you would.
My tip is to look past a pretty paint job and see what a board is really made of, if you wanted to spend more than a $1000 then that opens up some other great boards.
E T
E T
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24 Jan 2013 11:28am
Hey Tommy, you know what SUPping is about I am sure, getting out there on the water, paddling new places and maybe catching a few waves. It isn't about brands and what is cool it is about fun.
You should definitely buy the Atlantis if that is what you can afford and are happy that it will do the job for you.
Of course the cheaper brands are not the quality of more pricey models but you know what not all of us are wealthy either.
Buy it and go out and have fun.
ET
McDougal
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24 Jan 2013 1:31pm
Wow paul.j, what you have done right there is really bad business mate.

let me guess you sell NSP?

Do you actually know the construction of the boards under the "pretty paint jobs"?

Ive got a couple of Atlantis boards myself and i have to say im more than impressed with how they perform. People i know have also purchased these boards and have the same view as me.

Time to get off your high horse buddy.
paul.j
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24 Jan 2013 12:47pm
McDougal said...
Wow paul.j, what you have done right there is really bad business mate.

let me guess you sell NSP?

Do you actually know the construction of the boards under the "pretty paint jobs"?

Ive got a couple of Atlantis boards myself and i have to say im more than impressed with how they perform. People i know have also purchased these boards and have the same view as me.

Time to get off your high horse buddy.



I'm not bagging any thing out more just saying there are better boards! i sell stuff from China as well so i know the difference and there is a difference. I dont say my china boards are worth $1600 but for you i will do a special price of $600!! i sell stuff for what its worth, so you tell me who is doing bad business? If saying it like it is is wrong then damm i'm guilty!!
I'm stoked you like your boards and yes there are plenty of people i'm sure are stoked on them but for me, and i'm pretty sure i'm aloud my own opinion when i post under my OWN name i think there are better. Dont take this as just a dig at these boards i pretty much feel this way for most boards coming out of China at the moment. There are some OK one's and these seem to be in that bunch as i know what factory they come out of but there are still better.

It's up to you what you choose not me i just give a Opinion which i thought i was still aloud to do?

Jacko
McDougal
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24 Jan 2013 2:32pm
of course you entitled to your opinion, it just felt as if your were bagging one product that you dont sell, and pushing them onto a product that you do sell. Ive been in business a very long time and this to me is a big mistake. Anyway,
i appreciate and respect your opinions.
Cheers Danny
AndyR
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24 Jan 2013 2:25pm
I think before anyone can comment on if he should buy the atlantis you would want to of ridden one / checked out the board in person to look at the construction side of things etc,
I haven't ridden a naish board for example so I will never comment on if I think they are great or are overpriced etc..

I think it's funny on this forum how people down grade and rubbish a brand Etc when they haven't used or inspected it themselves. Just because a board is made in china doesn't mean you right it off as crap, maybe just maybe the company has finally got it right and the board is an absolute winner in all aspects.. I'm sure naish had to start somewhere.

I respect that people give there opinions on other options which is great cause someone new to the industry like me loves as much knowledge as one can get but, rubbishing a brand or board that you haven't personally used just seems crazy in my eyes..

Kaihoe
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24 Jan 2013 4:14pm
I have no affiliation to NSP but I imagine it was suggested on this thread as it is (rightly or wrongly) considered to be good value for your hard earned. It's probably a bit like a Toyota corolla, it's no Ferarri or Merc but a hell of a lot better than a Great Wall or Daewoo. All will get you from A to B just a different experience.
I have no problem with Jacko or any retailer making a suggestion of a brand (it was hardly a hard sell). I have walked into a SUP shop thinking I had my mind made up about a certain purchase but after a long consultation and suggestion by the knowledgable staff have ended up buying a different board (not a more expensive board either), which in hindsight has turned out to be a bloody good decision. All the retailers I have met here in Vic are all stoked about the sport, all paddle when they can and all seem keen to match the right board to the right paddler.
Don't be afraid to check out the buy and sell section of the forum though Tommy123, there are some bargins but buyer beware.
Deano72
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24 Jan 2013 4:31pm
AndyR said...
I think it's funny on this forum how people down grade and rubbish a brand Etc when they haven't used or inspected it themselves. Just because a board is made in china doesn't mean you right it off as crap, maybe just maybe the company has finally got it right and the board is an absolute winner in all aspects.. I'm sure naish had to start somewhere.


You'll get used to the regulars talking up the brands they are affiliated with.
I know for a fact that some extremely experienced Aussie shapers have spent some time in at least one factory in China and were impressed with the skill of the crew manufacturing the boards and the finished product.....but that doesn't mean everything coming out of China is of good quality.....there is more than one factory making boards.
jbshack
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24 Jan 2013 1:39pm
paul.j said...
If you are going to spend around the $1000 mark then you would have to buy NSP Element !! pretty much better in every way, you will have a resale value if you ever wanted to sell it which i doubt you would.
My tip is to look past a pretty paint job and see what a board is really made of, if you wanted to spend more than a $1000 then that opens up some other great boards.


I bought a 11' version for my wife and friends to paddle with me. Very happy with it
doggie
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24 Jan 2013 2:03pm


E T
E T
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24 Jan 2013 4:05pm
You got taht one wrong DOGGIE. it doesn't refer to Pop Out Boards. it refers to old mens pants.
ET
doggie
doggie
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24 Jan 2013 2:11pm
E T said...
You got taht one wrong DOGGIE. it doesn't refer to Pop Out Boards. it refers to old mens pants.
ET


Speak for your self saggy
Tommy123
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24 Jan 2013 9:08pm
Thanks everyone for ur advice. I know nothing bout sups so brand names arnt an issue for me. So far I havnt heard a bad word from someone that has used a halo. Good reviews good price and good warranty. I'll b buyin one in a couple of weeks. Thanks again
nickmcd41
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24 Jan 2013 11:43pm
Darthsup predicted it yesterday...the debate rages on. (everytime someone asks opinion on a board.)

I reckon it is pretty poor form for anyone to bag another forum user for the board or brand they recommend. Isn't that why the forum is used for this kind of advice? What we all use, and our experience is shared with those seeking help. When people like Jacko get bagged for saying one brand is better than another it really gets me cranky. Now Jacko is big enough and ugly enough to look after himself, but I feel I need to say that I have talked to him a few times at Currumbin and he has always been friendly, helpful, and never once bagged the boards I have looked to purchase (even though they were not purchased from him). He let my wife ride his board one day to test it, and never once tried to push us buying a board or certain brand from him even on that day..

The issue here is that if someone asks about a cheap chinese board and forum members recommend going to a 'known' or more expensive brand, every person with a chinese board comes out to defend the brand they bought, and accuse that person of brand loyalty for some reason or other...isn't that what all the Halo owners just did too? I have no issue with people saying the Halo is a good board, but if you haven't owned one, isn't it ok to recommend a NSP or Naish or a Fanatic etc...

I have owned 2 "designed in Australia made in China" boards myself, and would never do it again, but I recognise if that is what you can afford, they get you on the water, enjoying the sport and having fun. I now have in the family stable a Naish, a Fanatic and a Starboard.

The choices I made were from demo's and the invaluable advice on this forum from people like Jacko, DJ and co. I reckon most of us started using Seabreeze for this reason.

Enjoy the fishing and SUP on the board Tommy,I hope you got the advice you were after.
Tommy123
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25 Jan 2013 7:24am
To b honest didn't get a whole lot of advice seabreeze is just a place for people to argue with each other. Y wouldn't u buy Chinese made again? After kite boarding I won't buy naish cause I have seen naish kites that r just terrible so not a big fan of that brand.
CMC
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25 Jan 2013 9:21am
doggie said...





The irony of where this photo come from is hilarious.

I could go on for hours on this topic but I will spare you. It's the issues you don't have, warranty claims not made, construction you don't see that make the difference.

That will become apparent over time.
ShireSUP
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25 Jan 2013 10:42am
Tommy123 said...
To b honest didn't get a whole lot of advice seabreeze is just a place for people to argue with each other. Y wouldn't u buy Chinese made again? After kite boarding I won't buy naish cause I have seen naish kites that r just terrible so not a big fan of that brand.


Tommy I went for a surf this morning, at my local in the Shire on the Starboard and a couple were getting out of the water, now mines 11'2 x 36 x some number, theres were 10'6 x 31 and there comment was we bought these as we don't know if they would like it, and they are "crap" there words not mine, he says theres not enough epoxy so that any little bangs become dings, & they are heavy. Now my board is considerably larger and heavy, and theres were heavier than mine, bt I think the comment about the dings is the point.

I have bashed my board so many times its not fumy, and seriously it would be better if it had more paint as its a Dragons board and I am not a Dragons fan (red and white) but despite, dropping and knocking it on the brickwork, walls, the car, people running into it in our BaySurf etc, it hasn't had a repair, just lots of touch up paint.

And essentially there I think is the difference, Halo might have more epoxy but generally you find its like that for a reason...............

BTW I once said Naish can go F%^& themselves for a completely different reason, and that hasn't changed so we do agree on that point!

End of the day its your hard earned.............

Regards

Greg
nickmcd41
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25 Jan 2013 2:11pm
Tommy123 said...
To b honest didn't get a whole lot of advice seabreeze is just a place for people to argue with each other. Y wouldn't u buy Chinese made again? After kite boarding I won't buy naish cause I have seen naish kites that r just terrible so not a big fan of that brand.


A few reasons for not buying one again. Was very heavy compared to other boards for it's size (as Shiresup said). Paint quality was poor. I installed high quality rail tape from new, when I replaced it, the paint came off with it. Deck pad was lifting in a few spots, had blemishes appear in the paint after a few weeks of use. I also took a hammering on the resale value.

If your budget is $600-800 for a board and you want new then you get what you can afford. My advice is get a really good quality 2nd hand board, as so many others have recommended, I think you get great bang for your buck out of a well cared for, high quality board. I would suggest a NSP, or Fanatic if you don't want Naish. Go as wide as you can, and as long as you can if you are fishing off it primarily.
teatrea
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25 Jan 2013 2:21pm
You can only get what you can afford at the end of the day , but their is a reason products are a lot cheaper than others , and its not because you are getting the deal of the century On the other hand you can pay to much for a brand name too.
Tommy123
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25 Jan 2013 3:44pm
After a few phone calls I have gone off the halo I'd rather spend more and get quality not sure what I'm gonna get now but glad I made those calls I was bout to buy a dud
gumballs
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25 Jan 2013 5:06pm
Tommy123 said...
To b honest didn't get a whole lot of advice seabreeze is just a place for people to argue with each other. Y wouldn't u buy Chinese made again? After kite boarding I won't buy naish cause I have seen naish kites that r just terrible so not a big fan of that brand.


Hang around 4 a while Tommy there's some grumpy buggers here sometimes but I've nearly fallen of my chair laughing at times too.I've surfed 4 nearly 40 years and only SUP'ed 4 about 2.All I know about stand up paddling I've learned here through the conversations and links/vids ect..After a while you get to know what to expect from certain avtars and don't pay much attention.Good luck with the new board,I wonder if you could catch a fish and instead of reeling it in just get it to tow you along.
Tommy123
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25 Jan 2013 5:06pm
Could do some tow in surfing with the fish instead of jetski.
Gassa
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25 Jan 2013 5:14pm
paul.j said...
If you are going to spend around the $1000 mark then you would have to buy NSP Element !! pretty much better in every way, you will have a resale value if you ever wanted to sell it which i doubt you would.
My tip is to look past a pretty paint job and see what a board is really made of, if you wanted to spend more than a $1000 then that opens up some other great boards.


hey Paul i broke mine in half and it looks pretty well constructed to me now i can see past the pretty paint work lmao
AndyR
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25 Jan 2013 10:10pm
Tommy123 said...
After a few phone calls I have gone off the halo I'd rather spend more and get quality not sure what I'm gonna get now but glad I made those calls I was bout to buy a dud


Am interested to know how you know you were about to buy a dud from a couple of phone calls??


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