I hear a local SUP retailer has reported that a substantial number of his clients have developed a hernia from SUP.
Is this true......?
Who's got one they can blame on SUP?


PS....most likely not from paddling, but from lifting their massive over weight boards!

Yeah I never thought I'd get one but did. Cannot say for sure how I got it, may have been sup, most likely lifting rubber duck off trailer. Anyway they reckon if you've got one you should get it fixed which I did on monday. I'll be out of the water for at least a month, then slowly build up strength in the lake I guess. I'd be interested to hear of other's recovery from such an operation. Can't wait to get back on the board. Oops can't laugh too hard, hurts too much. Robdog.

robdog said...

Yeah I never thought I'd get one but did. Cannot say for sure how I got it, may have been sup, most likely lifting rubber duck off trailer. Anyway they reckon if you've got one you should get it fixed which I did on monday. I'll be out of the water for at least a month, then slowly build up strength in the lake I guess. I'd be interested to hear of other's recovery from such an operation. Can't wait to get back on the board. Oops can't laugh too hard, hurts too much. Robdog.

Robdog was yours an ingurnial herniation (ie the lump is always there) or the other type?

Dont kid yourself it takes a while to heal and physiologically took me even longer to do any heavy lifting I just kept thinking my intestine is going to push through my groin again.

Walking and cycling are about the only things you can do initially.

These are serious matters, It can be a normal hernia or the other which is bad and needs urgent surgery. It will kill the blood flow to your testicals.

Well Wally or Hilly...or whatever
You have missed the point, I have absolutly no commercial aspirations at all.

The Hernia matter is what I am wondering about, I was surprised to hear of it.

The fact is it takes LESS than a day to make a production board & at $7 a day & very cheap materials....well you work it out genius.
Very light strong SUB's can be made......I get so sick of going on about it...you will wake up one day & realise what you are missing out on, when they finaly start making light high perfomance boards for those who want that.

Yes your right I do it for the love, & I have increased that fun level for my mates by making them something that works better than what your paying way too much for. (share holders...get real)
I get a kick out hearing/seeing a mate have more fun on something I have made in my shed, particularly when I have seen them struggle with a heavy expensive but very slick looking log.
Many are very happy paying for & riding the pro stuf, I dont give two hoot's......but I know more fun can be had from the sport for those who want that & I enjoy showing guy's how.
So Wally you are totaly wrong......I am taking the P1ss for the benifit of the sport, not my "agenda"

Dee Jay said...

hey LSD, i don't think hilly missed the point here. Great you're boards are light, can't argue, but the way you talk up your boards as the only way.....its gotta depend on the type of waves your surfing and the ability of the surfer to their preferences, can't be black and white like you see it

Well you have missed the point as well......I was interested in hernia injury only.

I dont talk up my boards as being the only way......I try to get the message across that light is more fun for a large percentage of riders in every day conditions.
How many ways do I have to say this? Light is fun & user friendly.
Have you ridden a light SUB? I doubt it, there are not many around.
If your into riding Margret river or Bells at 8' well of course the Hawaii design/weight can be a more approprate option.

Dee Jay said...

I wasn't disagreeing with the light weight, generally proven in short boards light rips but the outline and fin configuration I would have thought would be dictated by the waves you're surfing and your ability. Bigger, steeper waves would require more the short board outline and the fuller shapes with a single fin would be fun to try in smaller stuff??.....love to have access to all these different boards to try them out

That is the fun part....trying to develop a board that is optimum to ride in the conditions normaly ridden. I dont want to carry around a quiver
My 82 seems to do well here around Torquay & Bells & Anglesea. It's wave hight limit is hard to gauge, waves 3 or 4 foot over head are the largest I have ridden at Bells & PRK, it took care, just a matter of drawing out the turns more. Something I noticed was the steeper/hollow the wave, the easyer it was to ride. And yes extra fins would help in the larger stuff. Large single fins are prone to pop/spin out.

LSD, have not had a hernia but have experienced some particularly nasty external hemorroids if that helps the cause?

I think definitely caused by overweight production SUP's

Is there the potential for a class action here?

LSD said...

Well Wally or Hilly...or whatever

Less than a day to make a board LOL and you call me a wally man you have been seriously into your name.

hilly said...

LSD said...

Well Wally or Hilly...or whatever

Less than a day to make a board LOL and you call me a wally man you have been seriously into your name.

When you start to worry about shareholders and profits, big old stubborn fellas like yourself should get your heart rate and cholesterol levels checked if you want to avoid chest problems down the track. Stop taking your angry pills and enjoy your freakin holiday you pillock.

now now boy's

You stated a "production board" takes less than a day to make which is untrue. You meant one of your boards with a couple of layers of glass over a eps takes a day.
I have just spent a lot of time with Jim from Tropical Blends, 20+ years in the industry surfboards now sups. He gets a factory to make runs of boards shaped by little known shapers like pat rawson and Dennis pang. He kindly explained the whole process from step one. To get a strong board with a high quality finish in large numbers is a daunting process. Talking to the naish family about how the profit margin in the business means they are really close to the wire. Noone is getting mega rich at this and they are really trying to put out a quality product. The range offered by companies like naish with 21 sups and starboard with a huge range which are relatively light relatively strong and have a fantastic finish mean we have great choice.
There are so many steps from r and d, freight, ads, etc that add to the cost with a large run then the customer support and they do not want any rail chips. The costs to get into production and the time to do it is much greater than you seem to think.
I would love you to get a product on the market and see how it goes.

Nice boat bet that does not cost $200

OK I am really confused
I have just recovered from my hernia operation .

My first board was a production board that I could not lift onto the roof of the car by myself, has rail chips from the paddle and will go in a straight line on a wave.

My current board is EPS/Epoxy can be carried in one hand to the most remote break around, has no rail chips due to paddle, bottom turns, bounces off lips and cutbacks.

Which board should I use tomorrow?

oliver said...

Forget your doctor, I'd definitely be listening to Hilly, he's in hawaii and has visited 3 different board manufacturers and has the whole sup construction thing wired. Pay the 2k for a psh and help out all those poor struggling Hawaiians and give their share-holders their well earned cream puff at the end of the year.

Well said Oliver
I think it is extremely important that we all support the US economy as well.

oliver said...

Forget your doctor, I'd definitely be listening to Hilly, he's in hawaii and has visited 3 different board manufacturers and has the whole sup construction thing wired. Pay the 2k for a psh and help out all those poor struggling Hawaiians and give their share-holders their well earned cream puff at the end of the year. LSD is just a bush mechanic hobby builder who should get over it.

I love all these self appointed experts on this forum.

That is real harsh, And from the riding i have seen of yours and your self prff I would not be stating that fact to LSD.

I would be happy to ride his boards myself, In fact i may just contact him about a 12ft but as normal the freight will kill me if not the wife cutting my balls off.

BP