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Jawgar
Jawgar
ACT
21 posts
ACT, 21 posts
18 Jun 2014 1:04pm
I've been on SUP for 2 seasons (only surf 20 days a years as I live in ACT). My ratio of attempts to catching waves is about 5:1. So what am I doing wrong? Is it better to move weight forward as I paddle onto wave. I'm trying the quick short paddle strokes shown on some videos. Also after a failed attempt I sometimes have a go at the next wave but that's usually a fail as the wave has curled up by then and I don't have a technique for a late take-off
Kami
Kami
1566 posts
1566 posts
18 Jun 2014 1:37pm
Throw out paddle and SUP , take a mal and learn basics in a prone position first.

Have fun, cheers
lost at sea
lost at sea
WA
358 posts
WA, 358 posts
18 Jun 2014 2:09pm
Jawgar said...
I've been on SUP for 2 seasons (only surf 20 days a years as I live in ACT). My ratio of attempts to catching waves is about 5:1. So what am I doing wrong? Is it better to move weight forward as I paddle onto wave. I'm trying the quick short paddle strokes shown on some videos. Also after a failed attempt I sometimes have a go at the next wave but that's usually a fail as the wave has curled up by then and I don't have a technique for a late take-off
don't stress too much ,it takes time, I have 2 tips that will help while waiting for your next sup session 1 is practise paddling around in surf stance ( sideon) this will help when catching waves, once you get the hang of it , put some pace into short sprints that sort of stuff and 2 tip learn how to j turn both directions and really learn how to crank those bad boys ,that will build up your strength and stability these two moves can be done anywhere ,it's actually better to start on a river/lake goodluck and have fun you'll be ripping in notime

jonbro
jonbro
NSW
55 posts
NSW, 55 posts
18 Jun 2014 4:11pm
Board specs and model? Perhaps your board is not right for the conditions or location. A few things need to be addressed if you want some help :)
greggyd
greggyd
TAS
183 posts
TAS, 183 posts
18 Jun 2014 4:13pm
I wait for waves paralelle to the on coming swell. Then when i pick my wave its usually only 6 or so strokes on one side that will bring me around to striaght and by that time the wave should be under me if you time it righ (I find the small amount of time you take to swap hands/minor change of direction, the loss of momentum is noticable). Then stay in the normal paddling stance until the wave has come underneath you and you are almost purely riding with the waves power before switching to a surf stance. If it is a steep wave you will need to get a fair way back (quickly) on your board to avoid nose diving. If you have a fuller wave take your time and have fun.
HGFish
HGFish
NSW
148 posts
NSW, 148 posts
18 Jun 2014 5:22pm
Like most things - it comes down to timing; too early and you can paddle as hard as you like; too late and you'll be swimming. I'd suggest going a little later than you have been and even with the odd swim that will pay off quicker than marathon sprints without any result. If you don't feel the board start to glide after 3 or 4 strokes, then go later again.
MickMc
MickMc
VIC
456 posts
VIC, 456 posts
18 Jun 2014 7:29pm
Kami said...
Throw out paddle and SUP , take a mal and learn basics in a prone position first.

Have fun, cheers


Sorry Kami, can't agree. Totally different techniques.
MarkThommo
MarkThommo
VIC
48 posts
VIC, 48 posts
18 Jun 2014 10:31pm
Hi Jawgar
Plenty of sound instructional vids on Youtube on techniques for catching waves on SUPs - not to mention watching some of the ones posted by members on Seabreeze including a couple of DJs surf vids; you can watch what they do on them.
Always best to see it in action I reckon. Youtube vids have commentary and vision.
Stick with it - it's worth the effort!
Kami
Kami
1566 posts
1566 posts
18 Jun 2014 8:44pm
MickMc said...

Kami said...
Throw out paddle and SUP , take a mal and learn basics in a prone position first.

Have fun, cheers



Sorry Kami, can't agree. Totally different techniques.


Ok, no problem about MickMc but i push the envelop saying that learning in prone position make watch and bring knowledge about the surrounding of waves. You can't have an common sens or understand surfing rules without an humble watching of people and waves mechanic.
cheers.
surfinJ
surfinJ
674 posts
674 posts
18 Jun 2014 11:13pm
MickMc said...

Kami said...
Throw out paddle and SUP , take a mal and learn basics in a prone position first.

Have fun, cheers



Sorry Kami, can't agree. Totally different techniques.


Actually seeing the moment when the wave just pushes into you, the moment the steepness arrives requiring
the increased paddle rate that catches the wave, that's what's hard to recognize at first. Prone or SUS.

Standing up in small waves is even harder to see it. A little bit of prone on your sup or whatever can't hurt.
Rory4053
Rory4053
NSW
94 posts
NSW, 94 posts
19 Jun 2014 6:24pm
Hi mate welcome to SUP. Great that you are having a go. I agree with some of the posts to check the YouTubes etc but not in relation to going prone to begin with.

Happy to give you some advice, can you tell what happens typically when you come off. Is it a nose dive, fall of the back, an unbalanced sideways fall etc.

Also a previous question was in relation to what board you are using and the kind of surf you get into. This would be useful info.

Cheers
Rory
gibo
gibo
QLD
213 posts
QLD, 213 posts
19 Jun 2014 7:28pm
There is a few of us in the ACT who head down the coast every month or so for a few waves. Send me a PM if you are keen to come along. It's a relaxed crew who would be happy to provide some tips.
MickMc
MickMc
VIC
456 posts
VIC, 456 posts
19 Jun 2014 7:42pm
surfinJ said...

MickMc said...


Kami said...
Throw out paddle and SUP , take a mal and learn basics in a prone position first.

Have fun, cheers




Sorry Kami, can't agree. Totally different techniques.



Actually seeing the moment when the wave just pushes into you, the moment the steepness arrives requiring
the increased paddle rate that catches the wave, that's what's hard to recognize at first. Prone or SUS.

Standing up in small waves is even harder to see it. A little bit of prone on your sup or whatever can't hurt.


Yep prone surfing won't hurt and I think anyone who wants to get into sup surfing should have a go at prone as well ..... doing both will mean you can get out onto the water more often and both are fun. Most suppers come from a long surfing background but still struggle at first with actually catching waves because their laying down to standing up technique no longer applies .... you're already standing up. The problem is to adjust to the tilt of the board as the wave comes through. The best tip I ever got was to get into the surfing position (ie one foot in front of the other, not side by side) before the wave comes. This allows you to adjust easily to the tilt of the wave. Paddle hard as the wave approaches. As it picks you up if you are tipping to far forward and pearling (nose diving) lean back onto your back foot, if you are falling off the back of the wave then lean foreward with your weight onto your front foot. Keep paddling hard throughout the process and one day it will all click into place.
micksmith
micksmith
VIC
1701 posts
VIC, 1701 posts
19 Jun 2014 7:43pm
gibo said...
There is a few of us in the ACT who head down the coast every month or so for a few waves. Send me a PM if you are keen to come along. It's a relaxed crew who would be happy to provide some tips.


This is a fantastic offer, best outcome your going to get jawgar.
Great stuff gibo, double thumbs up from me
husq2100
husq2100
QLD
2031 posts
QLD, 2031 posts
19 Jun 2014 11:19pm
Kami said...


MickMc said...



Kami said...
Throw out paddle and SUP , take a mal and learn basics in a prone position first.

Have fun, cheers





Sorry Kami, can't agree. Totally different techniques.




Ok, no problem about MickMc but i push the envelop saying that learning in prone position make watch and bring knowledge about the surrounding of waves. You can't have an common sens or understand surfing rules without an humble watching of people and waves mechanic.
cheers.



is that the same way the French would fight a war...throw away their hardware, sit back and watch???
mort69
mort69
WA
178 posts
WA, 178 posts
19 Jun 2014 10:35pm
Prone surfing is easier and your progession will be quicker once your comfortable with that the sup will no dout come easier best to take 2boards to the beach and have a go both.a larger prone board will give you a feel for control you will need on a sup
Jawgar
Jawgar
ACT
21 posts
ACT, 21 posts
20 Jun 2014 3:18pm
Hi - I've got a 9.6 X 31 jp Australia tri fin. Most problem I have is having the wave pass under me even though I'm paddling my darndest. Haven't mastered much of a turn so tend to be heading for shore rather than along the face
caltrano
caltrano
VIC
87 posts
VIC, 87 posts
20 Jun 2014 6:12pm
Jawgar,

Sounds like your board is not the issue. As others have said timing is key. if the waves are rolling through under you - you are not in the correct spot to take off. Being on a SUP you can generally be wider and out further as they should pick up the wave easier. Continue to put yourself closer to the take off zone (where others are catching the wave) eventually you will feel the wave picking up the board. You may need to move yourself forward on the board if waves keep passing under you. You should be standing near the centre of gravity with the nose about an 2 - 3cm off the water.

Catching the wave you are trying to be moving the board forward and have the best balance you can, for me this is feet side by side and I jump to surf stance, alternatively others prefer to be in surf stance. The transition should occur just after the point at which the wave takes the board. The board will be moving down the face and steady. Unlike surfing where your take off has your body weight moving forward I actually move my weight back for the take off and then move forward or back on the board after the bottom turn. For the bottom turn you need to get your weight on your back foot and have it as close to the fins as you can. I would focus on catching waves then move to the face of the wave.

When you are learning to catch waves be heading to shore and then turn rather than diagonal along the line. In time this is much easier but until you have a confident take off it is much more stable with the board travelling straight.

The more practice the better you get. You will be much more relaxed and this also makes you more stable. The cleaner the waves the easier it gets to surf but generally the added crowd make it harder to learn. Point breaks are defiantly better to learn at as you can paddle around the waves.

There is nothing better than clean 3 - 4' waves with low wind and low crowds catching waves until you cant paddle out any more.

Good luck

Andrew
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