Is age just a number?

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teatrea
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10 Mar 2013 7:20pm
Im a big boxing fan , Bernard Hopkins just won the the light heavy weight world tiltle at age 48. It got me thinking we get hung up on age as a determining factor in sports perfomance. But blokes like this and the likes of Kelly slater , in our own sport Kelly Margetts 40 , i think Jamie mitchel may be around 37 , can take it right up to the younger crew. Dutsin Fletcher from Essendon i think is 38.Just goes to show age is no barrierBut hopkins is amazing to last so long in the most brutal of sports is amazing.
Pando71
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10 Mar 2013 9:02pm
True that Teatrea,
Bernard hopkins , what a legend!! Pretty sure Archie Moore fought till he was 50. Randy Couture fighting in the UFC into his mid to late 40's. Some athletes can prolong there career through hard training,training smart and are genetically gifted.Bloody amazing!!!
AndyR
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10 Mar 2013 9:51pm
Ofcourse it's only a number, most triathlon ironman and women are over the age of 40.
I've ran a couple of marathons and I'd easily say majority of marathon runners are 40+

I only read yesterday that Michele bridges ( trainer on biggest loser) is 42 or something she is one of the fittest tonned women in the media today and she has only got better in the last 18months..

Age has nothing to do with ability it's all in the mind. If you want to do something and have the motivation to do it the goal is possible.
dtm
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10 Mar 2013 11:17pm
The current over 40 Australian title holder is over 50 .... And he also won both supa Aussie titles opens and masters .... And has two SPSC series winner titles yep goatie over 50 and smashing people less than half his age .... I think age is just a number myself But I'm young so not really the right person to ask !!
thePup
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10 Mar 2013 8:39pm
Yeah it is TT
NNSUP
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11 Mar 2013 7:37am
Ask Casso? He's an old guy.
surfershaneA
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11 Mar 2013 4:52am
Just the post I needed to see. Still hope for me yet?

angie pangi
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11 Mar 2013 8:53am
Pete dorries mixing it up with the crew yesterday at noosa bop coming in 5th overall!! Top effort by a 46yr old.
X angie
angie pangi
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11 Mar 2013 8:55am
Oh and Sue Dorries at 55yrs old and still going strong in sup and oc racing. One of the fitness ladies i know
X angie
Sandsy1
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11 Mar 2013 10:57am
NNSUP said...
Ask Casso? He's an old guy.



Not nice If Casso's over the hill I'm stuffed!!
My Dad did his first marathon at 55, still walks every day and is 87. Plays golf at least once a week with no cart of course.
Lifestyle, diet and exercise for your whole life, means you can do anything at any age.
ockanui
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11 Mar 2013 10:57am
[b]AndyR said

Age has nothing to do with ability it's all in the mind. If you want to do something and have the motivation to do it the goal is possible.


Absolutely, mind you, the 56 year old body needs a little cajoling on occasion and there is a healthy dose of not wanting to let the fading light of youthfullness get extinguished, but best of all is being fit enough to keep the endorphins happy to allay the onset of sadness that, being at the pointy end of life brings, having said that, I'm lucky I don't have to act my age....cause I keep forgetting to...
Sandsy1
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11 Mar 2013 11:01am
ockanui said...
[b]AndyR said

Age has nothing to do with ability it's all in the mind. If you want to do something and have the motivation to do it the goal is possible.


Absolutely, mind you, the 56 year old body needs a little cajoling on occasion and there is a healthy dose of not wanting to let the fading light of youthfullness get extinguished, but best of all is being fit enough to keep the endorphins happy to allay the onset of sadness that, being at the pointy end of life brings, having said that, I'm lucky I don't have to act my age....cause I keep forgetting to...


Hey, a man with a plan (don't have to act my age), nice work!!
I agree, Aging disgracefully!!
micksmith
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11 Mar 2013 11:17am
mmm! think its a little more than just numbers or all in the mind.
I'm optomistic and also realistic, the body goes through changes as we age, although I consider myself reasonably energetic and fit I have observed a slower rate of recovery from both injuries and muscle fatigue, this is not in the mind just body. Now don't get me wrong I can still flog many teenagers in a 100mtr sprint and swim further than most. It just takes longer to recover.
Now there are exceptions of course, but for the most we will slow with age and thats not want of trying. Be interesting to see how many are surfing and at what level when they hit 75-85yrs remember there just numbers.
E T
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11 Mar 2013 11:32am
I am going to agree with Mick here. I am 58 and still believe I am "young at heart", mental attitude definitely is a big plus in "staying young".
However, despite staying very active the body takes longer to repair. I know that if I have an injury and am laid up for a while, it takes longer to get the fitness level back to where I was before the injury. This, I think is a natural part of life. It is a definite bonus though to stay as active as you can.
One thing that doesn't change is the "want" to do things and go as hard as you can. It just takes a while longer to recover.
ET.
AndyR
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11 Mar 2013 11:50am
I understand that it would take longer to recover but then it also might just mean the older you get the more effort you have to put into recovery to bounce back quicker.. Massage, ice baths, cleaner eating etc. no alcohol

Also would depend on how often you are performing such tasks. if you go paddle or surf once a week and pull up sore maybe if you did it 2 3 4 times a week the body would adapt and recover quicker.

I recently read a study about an endurance athlete 40+ that pushed his body to the limits every day for 50 days and had sport scientists do daily test on his body and he actually got stronger and fitter and develop amazing muscles memory when the white coats predicted he would faid and injure and not handle the demands.. Maybe he's one of a kind I dunno..

Just a thought or maybe it's a dream as I'm only 28 and have goals to put my body and mind through hell and back by trying some amazing endurance feats over the next 25 years
Sandsy1
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11 Mar 2013 1:16pm
AndyR said...
I understand that it would take longer to recover but then it also might just mean the older you get the more effort you have to put into recovery to bounce back quicker.. Massage, ice baths, cleaner eating etc. no alcohol

Also would depend on how often you are performing such tasks. if you go paddle or surf once a week and pull up sore maybe if you did it 2 3 4 times a week the body would adapt and recover quicker.

I recently read a study about an endurance athlete 40+ that pushed his body to the limits every day for 50 days and had sport scientists do daily test on his body and he actually got stronger and fitter and develop amazing muscles memory when the white coats predicted he would faid and injure and not handle the demands.. Maybe he's one of a kind I dunno..

Just a thought or maybe it's a dream as I'm only 28 and have goals to put my body and mind through hell and back by trying some amazing endurance feats over the next 25 years


Don't hold back, because of what might or might not happen in the future, physically. I'm 58, nearly and have to have a hip replacement this year, due to overuse. Would I change anything, if I had my time over. Not a thing.
Structurally, I have a small misalignment in the hip, that was never picked up. But that is me! Not going to complain as I have no regrets at all.
Marathons, Ironman Triathlon, Soccer, Surfing, now SUP, having way too much fun!!
Don't be afraid to push your physical limits. It's the best feeling in the world.
Go Hard or Go Home.
E T
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11 Mar 2013 12:19pm
Good luck to you Andy and I hope yopu achieve your goals.
I am a regular paddler 3 - 4 times per week, 6 to 12klms per paddle on both flatwater and the ocean. I SUP surf as well whenever possible. I wouldn't describe myself as an ironman or a world beater however as I am not competitive.
My point was that things change as you get older. Also limits are placed on you such as family and career that can effect the amount of time one has to train or surf. In my opinion the fact that you are doing "something" is what matters most.
ET.
WaynoB
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11 Mar 2013 1:28pm
Age is just a number.

I SUP surfed yesterday at Umina with a married couple, both on long boards and they are well in their 70's and still loving it. I am 60 myself and feel pretty good physically. The young'ns may do it better but the enjoyment is still the same.

A weekend of SUP surfing in the morning and an afternoon of windsurfing are elixirs of life. Makes you want to get up each day and and do it again and again.

An active, healthy lifestyle and a positive view on life are vital to enjoying the limited number of years we are allocated. I'm a "glass half full man".
worrier
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11 Mar 2013 10:49am
Old Tommy Hafey is a great example.
Can't remember his exact daily exersise routine but it is truly impressive from what i remember and I think he is close to 80
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micksmith
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11 Mar 2013 2:18pm
If we look back at the age examples at start of topic it is 37-48 not old by any stretch of the imagination but possibly regarded as old in their given fields.
Age in itself isn't the main factor its what you have done or what you put your body through. Tennis pro for example is finished competing at the highest level well before 40yrs its only a number right? if you ask them they'll all say the body can't continue at that level. Sure there are exceptions but in the main no.
Its an undesputed argument that the body along with the mind goes through certain physiological changes thta are way beyond our understanding and reversal.
Pray to God that wasn't true and I enjoy life and all its treasures as much as I can before I'm struck down with some god forsaken disease as my parents were.
NNSUP
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11 Mar 2013 3:54pm
I think being active , eating the right foods and most things in moderation and a bit of luck on the health side makes the difference. Mental attitude has a lot to do with it also.

The body is certainly slower to bounce back after injury, but then again if you're fit and active you certainly recover faster than those that are not.

I spent yesterday morning chasing Riggs Napolean and Sammy Parker around the JPP time trial. The difference was that when we finished they were chatting and I collapsed on my board.

teatrea
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11 Mar 2013 3:44pm
Well I think 50 is the new 40 , 40 the new 30 I now have no excuse , thanks very much all you ultra fit old dudes
AndyR
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11 Mar 2013 4:26pm
I do agree with everything said above ill be doing my best to keep ontop of the game to prolong having to slow down..

anyone watch 60minutes last night?? story about "BILL" (70 something) looking after his wife that is faiding dramatically with Dementia. she can't remember who anyone or anything is. yet He gets her up everyday looks after her, takes her to the hairdressers every friday. has a specially made bike so he can ride with her in the front and takes her out riding everyday because she just loves it. it was truly inspiring considering 60minutes is usually full of crap reporting. the thing I took most out of the story was bills attitude he is totally devoted to this women who can't even remember who he is. and he said something last night that will stay with me forever.

"while I can I will"

while he is able to he will take care of her he will and won't let anything stop him from doing that. that right there is telling me age is just a number this guy has a spirit that can't be broken
jusrelax
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11 Mar 2013 4:49pm
Very inspiring makes me want t get off my fat back and go for a paddle right now.
Maybe after my manna nap.zzzz
Piros
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11 Mar 2013 5:17pm
Great post as I'm at the tail end of my 40's and great to see Surfing Australia add over 50's a good reflection of guys in the sport who still want to compete.

As Dan said Goatie is the shining example (over 50) taking out the over 40's and making the semi's in the open mens at last years Aussies.
Casso
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11 Mar 2013 6:27pm
NNSUP said...
Ask Casso? He's an old guy.



Not as old as some.
Piros
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11 Mar 2013 5:55pm
Yeah Casso is the other age killer , I watched him and Goatie battle it out in the Aussies in the over 40's .Casso also made it to the semi's in the open men. If my memory serves me correct I think both these guys almost had 3 or 4 heats straight.

In the final over the over 40's they didn't have time to change singlets after the open mens semi's , so they were judged in what they were wearing no break in between, marathon effort.
akhawk
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11 Mar 2013 5:23pm
AndyR said...
I do agree with everything said above ill be doing my best to keep ontop of the game to prolong having to slow down..

anyone watch 60minutes last night?? story about "BILL" (70 something) looking after his wife that is faiding dramatically with Dementia. she can't remember who anyone or anything is. yet He gets her up everyday looks after her, takes her to the hairdressers every friday. has a specially made bike so he can ride with her in the front and takes her out riding everyday because she just loves it. it was truly inspiring considering 60minutes is usually full of crap reporting. the thing I took most out of the story was bills attitude he is totally devoted to this women who can't even remember who he is. and he said something last night that will stay with me forever.

"while I can I will"

while he is able to he will take care of her he will and won't let anything stop him from doing that. that right there is telling me age is just a number this guy has a spirit that can't be broken


I saw that story and loved it. What an amazing guy!
laceys lane
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11 Mar 2013 8:09pm
just looked at this.

i train three times a week with currumbin ck paddlers. i'm somewhere between the a team and the b team.

now i'm well, well, well on the wrong side of 40. i believe i can surf as well as i ever did. even if i took up short boarding again i would still be as good as i was, maybe even technically better.

reasons- i surfed all my life and i've been a builder/carpenter all my life so i've been reasonably fit.


back to the paddling, i'm closer to the a team if i'm not working or work has been light.


i'm closer back to the b team when i'm working hard.

my body just doesn't recover as well when i have the full on work week and as i get older it gets hard to recover- there's not doubts about. i come home tired from work and i'm not really ready for training next early morning

you also have to stretch more eat right the night before training etc etc.

age wouldn't matter so much to a certain degree if you could have the perfect training and recovery program tailor to suit you, but that's fantasy land
teatrea
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11 Mar 2013 8:13pm
Lol , I might have to revaluate the 40 new 30 bit.I sparred against a few 30 year olds tonight and ate a few left hooks , reflexes not what they used to beI did get in a few to keep em honest though!
AndyR
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11 Mar 2013 8:25pm
"age wouldn't matter so much to a certain degree if you could have the perfect training and recovery program tailor to suit you, but that's fantasy land"

I think you got that just right Lacey.
A professional athlete has just that opportunity to have the perfect training and recovery program cause they don't have to put 9+hrs aside a day for work ... That is fantasy land
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