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Adapt
Adapt
QLD
723 posts
QLD, 723 posts
21 May 2012 1:33pm
What do you think makes a good paddle? Width, length, angle, blade surface area, surf paddle vs race paddle differences. I know a lot of you have your personal preferences and have tried a fair few paddles. Interested to find out what people think considering we are always talking about boards.
Newmo
Newmo
VIC
471 posts
VIC, 471 posts
21 May 2012 2:27pm
Wow 45 mins and 48 posts and no replies yet.
I'll jump in.
Kia Kaha paddle for me.
I have been using it now for about 2 years and it suits me fine. Carbon and Kevlar shaft that has a great texture to it and has just the right amount of flex and small T handle.
The Blabe is just over 8 inches by 16 long, or close to that anyway. The blade is very light and has little or no swing weight to it, a great catch and it holds the water well with no cavitating or side slip. I am sure there are better paddles and will no doubt be told so but for me this is what I want.

Cheers Scott
ScarbsSUP
ScarbsSUP
WA
354 posts
WA, 354 posts
21 May 2012 1:42pm
Hi Adapt,

I think the question you are asking for is very non specific so you are going to get very broad non specific answers.

Paddles are even more personal than boards, length, stiffness, weight, shape, etc and then different paddles for different activities.

Maybe it's better to quantify your answer with what you use it for and for what level you are paddling at.

I personally like the Quickblade Magic 100 for racing and surfing. Very stiff, super light and a golf ball textured active face. I consider myself a fairly competitive racer and am 6'3" and 92kg.

For me, everything feels too soft in flex and heavy after using the Magic. These definitely won't suit everyone as the stiffness is serious, but incredible for changing power into speed.

DM
Adapt
Adapt
QLD
723 posts
QLD, 723 posts
21 May 2012 4:03pm
^^ Yeah I could be more specific by adding only racing or surfing but that wasn't my intention. Guess the intention was to chat about paddles just like we chat about boards and allow everyone to voice an opinion.

To me each paddle has a purpose, I find paddles around the 8' mark need a higher cadence for paddling where as blades around the 9' mark require more strength and less cadence. Have people really noticed slipping in the water with a 8' paddle or are they just imaging it (other then the pro's & manufacturers tests). Guess thats what i'm looking at seeing in peoples opinions. Does length of blade really make a difference or the dimples in your blade?
ScarbsSUP
ScarbsSUP
WA
354 posts
WA, 354 posts
21 May 2012 3:30pm
Hey adapt,

Fair call.

I'll throw down my thoughts for discussion purposes.

IMHO, cadence is more a result of shaft length than blade size although a smaller blade would be a bit quicker in and out of the water undoubtedly. A shorter shaft allows you greater leverage on the blade so the shorter the better in terms of direct power and control, but you lose stroke length so there is the trade off. With my style I prefer a longer paddle shaft and if I need to go shorter in the surf or in racing where I need to accelerate quickly with power, I just choke the paddle by a few inches which does the same job as a shorter shaft.

We have blades from as small as 83 sq in to as large as 120 sq in, and yes there is a difference in "slippage". I think for the average punter learning, you won't notice the difference between say a 90 sq in and a 95 sq in, but once you spend time on a paddle and then try something different, it is fairly evident.

IMHO things like Dihedral (which controls blade flutter) make a difference to beginners more so than experienced paddlers and are to SUP what slotted windsurfing fins were to the masses in the 80's, they solve the need for better technique with a band aid fix. If the technique is good, then you need less dihedral.

The dimples on my Magic? You notice the different "feel" immediately on your first catch. Is it any faster? Maybe ever so slightly, but hard to quantify so I wouldn't buy one for this feature alone. I'm more stoked on the swing weight and flex overall. The recovery is effortless as the paddle is only 16 ounces. Again, this reduces fatigue and allows a faster recovery stroke.

I think flex of the blade and also the shaft is far more important than shape of the paddle blade itself. This one is a real personal preference. I borrowed a friends paddle the other day at training and it had a softish flex, I found with the flex, that it kept the load more even on my body and actually made the effort more taxing on my arms thoughout the entirety of the stroke.

The stiffness of the Quickblade Magic allows the board to accelerate more rapidly and directly connected to input power in the forward part of the stroke. Once up to speed or mid stroke, the arms and body had a half stroke worth of reduced pressure which allowed a modicum of recovery and I felt less fatigue.

Hope this helps,

DM
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
22 May 2012 8:30am
I pretty much only used a kia kaha for the first coupla years for everything. The last 2 years have been using a starboard enduro 475 for everything and its the best paddle I've owned or used by a long shot - powerful, light, strong and easy on the body.
In the past week I purchased a quick blade carbon/glass to use with my 12,6 - I bought the qb simply cos it was cheaper than other premium paddles AND IT'S PRETTY !
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