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husq2100
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21 Aug 2009 7:38pm
milk was a bad choice
Kagey
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21 Aug 2009 5:41pm
That is so spooky I was just reading his avatar, then you posted it!! yikes!!
OG SUP
OG SUP
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21 Aug 2009 7:48pm
The best thing to use is 2 layers of Gaff Tap. It stays on well and its quite spongy I use it on my 10'6WAA, you cant even tell its there if you match the colors like PetMc did.

Phill

rollo90 said...

I saw a lot of PSH boards when I was in Hawaii, and lots of them had proper rail tape on them.
Can we get that here?

sam


petemc
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21 Aug 2009 10:20pm
I did see some proper SUP rail tape here in Melb and if memory serves me correctly it was approx $50- for 2 x 8' lengths....hence the reason I went with gaffa tape which has worked perfectly.

Pete
billboard
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22 Aug 2009 7:48am
It would also be my guess that a lot of input into the McT sups would have come from Ray Gleave who has been riding McT sups since he first picked up a paddle. And Ray is one of the most amazingly gifted surfers ever to grace the waves.
As for price - I would predict that McT sups will be around the $1799 mark as are most of the gsi boards. the southpoint sups now that they are not being imported by gsi are going to be much cheaper and most surftech sups I believe are just under 2grand. I have the utmost faith in the McT shapes but will take some convincing that the gsi construction is up to par - at least in comparison to surftech.
boarder paul
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22 Aug 2009 6:19am
Hi,

That is the answear i was looking for.

mollydooka
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22 Aug 2009 7:12am
boarder paul said...

Im sure you favourite ... boards chip like everthing else.

It has nothing to do with construction but the rider learning.

IMHO


interesting comment from someone who apparently is yet to ride a sup (& before I get crucified, check out loco4olas's questions earlier in this thread & BP's responses). In my humble opinion (IMHO??, or is that "honest" ), if you're using your paddle a lot for bottom turns, cutbacks etc in fast powerful waves, you're bound to hit your rail occasionally, & often you won't even notice it. Some guys claim they never hit their rails. I've been supping for almost 2 years, my occupation allows me to get out there pretty frequently, I don't hit my rails often but I'd never say never
Check out this thread: www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=2293.0

Re rail tape: I've found a paint shop in Perth who can get in some 3M auto stone-chip tape. I'll let you know if it works. Some surfers reckon that rail tape affects their sup's performance, see here: www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=4753.0
P co
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24 Aug 2009 10:58am
I have a suspicion the McTavish SUPs may be in the SLX epoxy construction. If so they will be a sweet weight and fairly tough but proberly more susceptible to sharp impacts than the South Point. More like a custom board.
Kagey
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24 Aug 2009 11:26am
What sort of weight do you call 'sweet'? I've been told the 9'6" weighs 10kgs, what do you reckon to that?.
Jack Mack
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24 Aug 2009 3:33pm
I started off with one of the first Southpoint Kalama's from GSI. You know the one, no handle, heavy as anything and stacks of chips along the sides. We have had the newer products from GSI (NSP and Walden) and the chipping problem is definately a thing of the past. We haven't seen any evidence of the grip lifting either. We use our GSI products every day and I rekon they are more than robust enough for the average pleb (me!)
And like loco4olas I'm curious about someone's boards.
log man
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24 Aug 2009 6:06pm
Jack mack, I'm a big fan of the GSI board. Ive got or had 3 prone boards. 1 nsp , 1 southpoint Kym thompson ,1 southpoint Downing. All of them go great, way better boards than the rider will ever be. And 3 boards set me back 1500 bucks! ALL PRAISE THE COBRA FACTORY.
Kagey
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24 Aug 2009 6:05pm
I've had 2 GSI boards and had a minor problem with one of them, I think it was when I battered a rail with a paddle when getting dumped off a wave, I took the board back to the shop and they handed me a new board and used the one with a cracked rail as a demo board so no issues with GSI, or my local boardshop.

Does anyone know if 10kgs is heavy or light for a 9'6" sup though? ...and will it make much difference if that is heavy?? I'm not a pro, never will be, won't be entering any competitions either. I just want a progressive board that floats my 98kg and stokes me out. That's it really.
Kagey
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24 Aug 2009 6:33pm
boarder paul said...

Your far to fat mate, You will sink it right to the bottom of the pit

10kg what..... My god is that with or with out fins


...........says the experienced stand up paddler..

boarder paul
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24 Aug 2009 6:34pm
Thought that would get ya heckels up kagey.[}:)]
oliver
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24 Aug 2009 8:13pm
Anyone watch Australian Story tonight - Bob McTavish played a leading role in it talking about his mate who took on Micro$oft and won? A very interesting tale I thought.

McTavish really impresses me and always comes across as very likable Aussie icon.
MarkKelly
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28 Aug 2009 2:58pm
Hi everyone who is interested in the McTavish SUP range,

The website has been updated now.

shop.surfindustries.com/us/surfboard-type/longboards/

The boards were designed by Bob McTavish and Ben Wallace in Byron Bay. Ben is one of the owners and General Manager of McTavish Surfboards, he is also an avid SUP surfer for a few years now. Other team riders were also involved in the designs. Each of the boards has a description with the target rider and also approximate weigh ranges for the riders as a general guide only.

The boards are made in a new technology we are calling X-1. This is our premium Wood and Epoxy construction. We are only using in the top end SUPs. It is designed to give maximum strength with minimum weight in the board. The test boards were super responsive.

Retail Prices for the Australian Market are:

9'0 McT SUP A$1,995
9'6 McT SUP A$1,995
10' McT SUP A$2,095

The first production boards are on the water now and will be in stores in Australia late September, they will be available in the USA in November and the rest of the world soon after.

Cheers,

Mark Kelly
Global Surf Industries.
Jack Mack
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28 Aug 2009 3:17pm
Nice
Jason
boarder paul
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28 Aug 2009 6:30pm
This is interesting, But can you tell us how this new X-1 construction differs from Epoxy.

You say they are built light but strong so would you says its construction is more or less what SLX is?

From what i can tell from what you have said is the X-1 construction is lighter than SLX.

What is this wood epoxy.



Thanks

MarkKelly
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29 Aug 2009 12:23pm
SLX is a combination of a high density EPS core that is glassed with 2 or 3 layers of fiberglass and laminated with Epoxy risen. It is pretty simple and the key is the combination to give the board true flex. We only use SLX in surfboards currently the Webber, McTavish and now 2 models in the Walden Range. We don't think it is strong enough for the battering most SUPs get.

The X-1 Technology is a lot more robust. The wood layer is top and bottom, it has layers of fiberglass as well that is all laminated together with Epoxy resin. The core is a lower density foam than the SLX as the Wood layers give the board strength. This allows for a light weight board whilst the wood gives the strength. The combination works really well together. The board is cured using a vacuum bagging process.

There seems to be a misunderstanding of what Epoxy is. It is only a resin that is used in the lamination of the various materials used in the construction of the board. There are hundred of variations of Epoxy resins the main characteristic is that it has a very high strength to weight ratio. ie you don't have to use a lot to get the desired strength in the lamination.
billboard
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30 Aug 2009 10:56am
Would be interested in knowing how this new construction is different to the old bonga mals. If its the same I would have to say that I have never seen more boards damaged and broken as I have the bonga mals. Will be interesting to see how many people are prepared to pay the almost $2000 price tag for a relative new-comer to the sup scene. If the major contributors to this board are Bob and Ray then it will work and you can pretty much state your life on that - still dont know though if the majority of progressive sup riders who are shortboarders will know or care what McTavish is as it is realistically a longboard label.
I personally hope the boards go well - it is good to see an iconic aussie label in the mix even though it is made in asia. (but aren't they all - well most) and maybe like like Laguna Bay/DC and Surshapes and other local brands they will be better suited our everyday aussie conditions rather than the generic sup boards that we have had to get used to over the years.
boarder paul
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30 Aug 2009 9:06am
Lets hope X1 does not atand for x-peramental -1

boarder paul
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5 Sep 2009 8:48am
Verry odd that there is no one comming foward to explain what X-1 is

I find this interesting that the dealers and i guess the factory will not let on what it is.

I hate it when companys do this as it forces people to purchase a board and most of the time with out a demo.

So i could be wrong but if the factory cant go into detail by now then i must come to the conclusion that there is something being hidden.

X-1 to me sounds the same as SLX No good for a sup.

I donr want this board i am a psh lifer, I just wanted to see if anyone can agree or not on this board.

BP
husq2100
husq2100
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5 Sep 2009 10:54am
BP what am i missing here???? or what are you missing??? look 3 posts up mate:

"SLX is a combination of a high density EPS core that is glassed with 2 or 3 layers of fiberglass and laminated with Epoxy risen. It is pretty simple and the key is the combination to give the board true flex. We only use SLX in surfboards currently the Webber, McTavish and now 2 models in the Walden Range. We don't think it is strong enough for the battering most SUPs get.

The X-1 Technology is a lot more robust. The wood layer is top and bottom, it has layers of fiberglass as well that is all laminated together with Epoxy resin. The core is a lower density foam than the SLX as the Wood layers give the board strength. This allows for a light weight board whilst the wood gives the strength. The combination works really well together. The board is cured using a vacuum bagging process.

There seems to be a misunderstanding of what Epoxy is. It is only a resin that is used in the lamination of the various materials used in the construction of the board. There are hundred of variations of Epoxy resins the main characteristic is that it has a very high strength to weight ratio. ie you don't have to use a lot to get the desired strength in the lamination."

Serg
boarder paul
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5 Sep 2009 9:07am
It does not realy say a lot does it, more of a sales pitch
husq2100
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5 Sep 2009 3:05pm
boarder paul said...

It does not realy say a lot does it, more of a sales pitch


what do want them to do, draw you a picture........and does it really make a difference to your decison? i get the feeling you are just board.

Serg
boarder paul
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5 Sep 2009 1:08pm
I dont want a mactavish, I was asking ohhh never mind

But yea pics would of been good.
boarder paul
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6 Sep 2009 5:22pm
MacTavish sups land in NZ, You guys are waiting till dec i think
lookielookie
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6 Sep 2009 7:44pm
people get confused with epoxy and with how boards are made, expecially with o/s models.
it would be a lot easier for people looking into products if they were labled with something like "moulded pop out" or "hand shaped".!!
boarder paul
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6 Sep 2009 5:46pm
That is true, But PSH is a pop out and IMHO the best boards out there
boarder paul
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6 Sep 2009 6:23pm
Kagey what did you think???
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