Was your last sup purchase new or second hand ?
What was your reason for whichever option you took ?

PLEASE - NO BRANDS OR SHOPS OR SHAPERS - JUST YOUR PURCHASING DECISION


My last purchase was new because it was an old runout model going cheap.

Second hands fine with me. It's not like a board has moving parts like a car that can be thrashed. Any damage is usually obvious and largely superficial and if you don't like it you can usually shift it without losing any money and possibly even pick up a few bucks

all brand new my boards, i like new things in saying that i would by second hand if i liked the board and the price is right.

I know that we on seabreeze are probably only the tiniest percentage of sup buyers in this country but from what you are saying and from what I hear most people are buying either second hand or the cheaper "no name" imports at the moment.
In your own opinions, at what price does a new board become a viable option when you are comparing it to a second hand one ?
I know from being around the industry for a while that $1800 (ish) is probably what a premium sup is worth, when compared I guess to a shortboard or mal, when you take into account the extra time and materials that go into it BUT I am also acutely aware that very few people are prepared to part with that sort of money for a sup nowdays and its a sh#t load of money to outlay in most peoples books - mine included.
So do you think that new premium brand sups are too expensive in general or can you just not afford one.

I do not want this to get into a brand vs brand or import vs local or premium vs cheapo thread - I just want to get some honest thoughts about what we are buying and whether our buying habits are based on what we want or what we can afford overall.

Its common knowledge that I have some ties to a particular retailer, and I do obviously support the brands that that retailer stocks but I still pay for my boards and I do primarily buy on price and I mainly buy 2nd hand or run out cheaper old models cos thats all I can afford.

Ideally I guess I would like to see us all being able to afford the latest u-beaut shiny sup models and updating to those new models every year and as such creating a really affordable and varied second hand market for those just coming into the sport, or on a tight budget or the person requiring a bit of a quiver without having to mortgage the house to do it. I sure as hell don't have the answers but I think someone needs to seriously look at what/why and how we are buying sups in order to make it more affordable for the customer to be riding quality boards and still profitable for the shapers, retailers and importers.

Secondhand is heaps less stress & trauma.....it's already got its first scatch & it's first ding

I think the whole "new or second hand" thing is a kind of red herring.....probably the real question
is...."why do we always want another board?"

Bill, you may be interested in this. I have been working voluntarily in the formation of a group called ASCIA. That is the Australian Surf Craft Industry Association. ASCIA will represent all surf craft (surfboards, SUP, clubbie boards, ski's, outriggers etc etc) manufacturers, retailers and materials suppliers.

ASCIA has been formed as a not for profit industry association much like the Master Plumbers Association etc. Some of its main objectives are to:

-Create formal qualifications, training standards and career pathways for manufacturers to encourage workers to join the industry. We are already working with TAFE who will very soon be offering hands on Skillset training for those interested in working in this industry. Employers are already interested, there are real staff shortages, this is the first step to start filling the gaps.
-Conduct market research to guide and assist manufacturers. We are about to launch a professional survey along the lines of what you are asking here very soon. Planning to go with Coastal Watch, Swellnet and with all industry sites that are offering space for free for something they see as supporting the backbone of the entire industry. I may have to hit up Laurie
- Form strategic alliances with service suppliers and complimentary industries.
- Promote the Australian industry both within Australia and Internationally.

There is much more to explain and happening. It is already backed and funded by local, state and Federal government. A website is being built kindly with funds from the Gold Coast City Council via Connecting Southern Gold Coast.

I know you are interested in this stuff and your question prompted me to let you know. If you want any more info PM me. There will be a multitude of media on this very soon.

P.S This may explain my real bias towards riding Aussie boards.

P.S.S ASCIA is not anti Asian as some may instantly believe.

gregc said...

Gizzie??? Really why do we want another board lol thats like saying why do we want another breath lol.

For sure....but maybe we should be wanting two new boards...maybe the "one new board" concept is hindering our evolution

GizzieNZ said...

I think the whole "new or second hand" thing is a kind of red herring.....probably the real question
is...."why do we always want another board?"

why not

I was just thinking WTF does new or second hand matter? Unless your getting a custom theyre all the second hand and exactly the same once you get them wet. I'll buy the right board for me at the time and if the board I want is second hand well that's even better.

billboard i do think sups are over priced but it is like drinking a exclusive bottle of whatever you choose to drink. how many people make sups compared to short boards so you do have to pay for what you like. i am holding my coin before my next board cause i think they are evolving to another level. plus my girl freaks at the amount of coin i spend on toys as it is,new board equals new necklace,ring or whatever will be enough not to hump the leash plug instead of her. i am now about to sell some boards and realise that whoever buys them will be better of than what i am from when i got them. being a bit more educated has made choosing a board hard as well,thought it would be easier but no.PLEASE dont try and tell me that GCCC are doing something good for us or anybody else unless they are related or being blackmailed for some unholy deed. nuff said

My last sup was pre-owned.
I paid $1500 for a sup which retails for $2350 and in excellent condition.
Reasons are obvious.
Can't justify paying full price.

What kind of dims are you after Dazza?
Have another look in the ads as I may have something to suit.

Cuttlefish said...

What kind of dims are you after Dazza?
Have another look in the ads as I may have something to suit.

After something around the 9'6 - 10'6 mark and fairly stable for someone 93kg 6'0 so maybe 30' + wide and 150l + volume.

Back on topic, is it worth paying say $1000 for a cheap no name package deal or for a well known brand second hand board? My research has been for the latter and thats my current personal preference however am open to others experiences/thoughts?

PSH 10.6 X 30 excellent condition Dazza

62mac said...

PSH 10.6 X 30 excellent condition Dazza

We were wondering who would be the first local to post a brand name in this thread