PSH Prices announced for Hawaii

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loco4olas
loco4olas
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23 Jul 2009 8:26pm
paddlesurfhawaii.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi

All Molded boards 10' and under $950 w/Pad & Fins
10'-3" and over $999 w/Pad & Fins
12' Gun/Ripper $1249 w/Pad & Fins

Who wants to come on a frequent flyer trip to pick up some new boards?

Hmm parallel importing anyone?

At today's exchange rate-one of the new short Rippers (which we know are coming):

950.00 USD = 1,168.95 AUD
United States Dollars Australia Dollars
1 USD = 1.23047 AUD 1 AUD = 0.812696 US

So for about $1600 (FF points plus 'tax', staying with friends) I get a new board and a trip to Hawaii to surf my new PSH Ripper!
STNDUP
STNDUP
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23 Jul 2009 11:15pm
......just for a comparison, does anyone know what they were selling for previously?
Bnaccas
Bnaccas
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23 Jul 2009 11:51pm
Airfare + Accom + new PSH 9'2" Ripper = $2700 approx**

The fun you'll have, priceless!


** Terms and conditions apply, you must travel after the 1/11/2009 with Jetstar so you might get smacked with excess luggage on the way back, but according to their website you should be right. Just pack light!
STNDUP
STNDUP
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24 Jul 2009 8:18am
I'm in!

Just for giggles I think I'll call the freight company and see how much a partial container would cost to bring in! I'm guessing there will be a 10% customs/duty fee on this +GST........hmmmmmm.

Cant wait to see what the local prices are going to be!
Ronnie
oliver
oliver
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24 Jul 2009 7:17am
Just get PSH to sign a docket saying the cost of the board was under AU$1,000. That will decrease the total cost significantly.
JonathanC
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24 Jul 2009 9:35am
If you have two people going you can spread the import duty allowance so no problem with customs. There must be some line you can put to the other half that explains how you you end up with a free holiday to Hawaii!
STNDUP
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24 Jul 2009 10:27am
Ah, I was thinking more along the lines of getting a group buy together. Guessing that a half container would cost around $2k to ship.........Seriously-was really just hoping to get the local pricing changes!

However, a trip to Hawaii is starting to sound pretty good at the moment.
boarder paul
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24 Jul 2009 9:18am
aus301
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24 Jul 2009 11:54am
Personally I would wait to see what Blane offers areas outside of Hawaii.

It's very hard to justify paying $700 or $800 more for a board in this country, however I can only assume AA would be working hard on closing that gap. From all reports AA does a great job representing this product and servicing the Australian SUP community. If he looses sales to OS I can only assume that is going to increase pressure on his business, the flow on that will be most visable will be the loss of a potential sponsor for events.

Now I am not asking everyone to fork out a heap of extra $$$ to buy a board here, but give these guys time to work it out and carefully consider the ramifiactions of you parting with your hard earned anywhere else than with a local supplier.
loco4olas
loco4olas
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24 Jul 2009 12:20pm
aus301 said...

Personally I would wait to see what Blane offers areas outside of Hawaii.

It's very hard to justify paying $700 or $800 more for a board in this country, however I can only assume AA would be working hard on closing that gap. From all reports AA does a great job representing this product and servicing the Australian SUP community. If he looses sales to OS I can only assume that is going to increase pressure on his business, the flow on that will be most visible will be the loss of a potential sponsor for events.

Now I am not asking everyone to fork out a heap of extra $$$ to buy a board here, but give these guys time to work it out and carefully consider the ramifications of you parting with your hard earned anywhere else than with a local supplier.


Agreed-AA (and his right hand bloke [no pun intended] Jason) are absolutely great guys to deal with and couldn't be more helpful and supportive. AA is away at the moment so we need to give him some latitude in informing the community here as to Aus. pricing. Having said that, at the CURRENT exchange rate aus$1200 for a new PSH Ripper is VERY enticing!

72k QFF points SYD-HNL-SYD return......

This may put some downward pressure on other manufacturer's prices-if the (arguably) leading SUP manufacturer can do this, others may be forced to follow. For those here that kitesurf-you'll recall the changes that occurred when BEST entered the market with their aggressive pricing-changed pricing across the board for ALL manufacturers-and kiters benefited with more reasonably priced equipment.
boarder paul
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24 Jul 2009 10:27am
But does the price you quote cover there freight to aust and customs etc.

I would have thought it is always cheaper to buy psh boards if you live in hawaii.



loco4olas
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24 Jul 2009 12:27pm
aus301 said...

If he looses sales to OS I can only assume that is going to increase pressure on his business, the flow on that will be most visable will be the loss of a potential sponsor for events.



That's circuitous logic-I don't think you can use the sponsoring of events (ultimately to increase sales of the sponsor's product) as justification for the sponsor sustaining a certain (high) level of product pricing....

boarder paul said...

But does the price you quote cover there freight to aust and customs etc.




Freight from China to Aust. is probably lower than China to Hawaii. (others could confirm this).

Customs-not sure on the duties imposed in the US, I would think they are comparative to those imposed here.

I'm just stoked to see a price DROP on a market leading product-and hope comparative pricing occurs here-quiver!!!!!

aussiewahine
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24 Jul 2009 12:30pm
I do know of someone bringing a container back from Hawaii in late Sept/ Early October. It will be full of watercraft, outriggers, ski's etc. I will contact them and see if they have any room left and at what price if anyone is seriously interested.

loco4olas
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24 Jul 2009 12:32pm
aussiewahine said...

I do know of someone bringing a container back from Hawaii in late Sept/ Early October. It will be full of watercraft, outriggers, ski's etc. I will contact them and see if they have any room left and at what prices if anyone is seriously interested.




There is room.
boarder paul
boarder paul
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24 Jul 2009 10:33am
Im not one to complain, But what about the people who have pre paid for the new stock. I presume they miss out on any price changes.
loco4olas
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24 Jul 2009 12:51pm
And this on the mainland USA prices:

As of July 31st, suggested retail prices for Paddle Surf Hawaii Outlets in the Mainland USA
10' and under: $1050+ tax includes Deck Pad and Fins
10'-3" to 11': $1099+ tax includes Deck Pad and Fins
12' Gun/Ripper $1349+ tax
JonathanC
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24 Jul 2009 12:59pm
Hey Aussiewahine, did you manage to claim some room in the container - about 16' long???
aus301
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24 Jul 2009 1:00pm
loco4olas said...

aus301 said...

If he looses sales to OS I can only assume that is going to increase pressure on his business, the flow on that will be most visable will be the loss of a potential sponsor for events.



That's circuitous logic-I don't think you can use the sponsoring of events (ultimately to increase sales of the sponsor's product) as justification for the sponsor sustaining a certain (high) level of product pricing....



I don't believe SUP in Australia is large enough or developed to a point where sponsorship of events and clubs could be seen as a huge winner for any organisation. I think at this point the $$$ injected would be seen as done just for the benefit of the sport, fostering the sport will deliver a return in the long term, but that doesn't put food on the table today when we are in the middle of a global economic downturn. From the point of view of a person that has run Windsurfing comps for many years I know how much I rely on sponsors to get them off the ground. I would hate to see a supporter of the sport put in a position where they can no longer do so due to an import market killing the sales of the product they reperesent.

Also I wasn't so much using it as justification for high prices, more as a consideration of one of the potential effects of an import market on a relatively new sport. I want to see prices come down as much as the next guy, I only pose the question 'at what cost?'

In saying all that I also don't want to see SUP go the way of windsurfing by getting to technical and pricing itself out of reach of many people. This ends up being very negative for the sport, and has reduced it to being pretty much a niche in this country. So I am all for what Blane is doing on the whole, and think the cost of dropping prices will be returned to PSH enormously in the future.
kiakaha
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24 Jul 2009 1:14pm
aussiewahine said...

I do know of someone bringing a container back from Hawaii in late Sept/ Early October. It will be full of watercraft, outriggers, ski's etc. I will contact them and see if they have any room left and at what price if anyone is seriously interested.




WE claimed a spot - 21 ft long
Kagey
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24 Jul 2009 1:02pm

As it stands $950 USD roughly converts to $1450 NZD but we pay closer to $2200 and more for larger boards (obviously) although I understand shipping costs and tax etc. it's still hard to stomach seeing elsewhere getting way cheaper products.

So I wait with great interest to see if PSH and the like bring down prices for international customers??
lance parma
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24 Jul 2009 3:20pm
....anyone sparing a thought for the Aus retailers who have gone to considerable trouble, not to mention financial risk to introduce product to Aust? The small private businesses that import stock, lease shops, pay staff etc to service a very small group of enthusiasts. They don't make big profit margins on the boards they sell taking into account overheads and they are responsible for handling warranty claims etc.They rely on repeat custom and cannot afford to fleece their very small market.

These businesses seem to be doing a pretty fair job in supporting new comers and enthusiasts by providing demo boards, intro lessons, events etc. Take SHQ for example in Melb - what a helpful bunch of dudes. No dount there are plenty of other stores around like them - run by enthusiasts who love their watersports. Let's be wary of cutting out long standing retailers for the sake of a couple of hundred $100 at this point in time - who knows where the AUS $ may head in future. One day we may need the buying power of an authorised dealer.

WINDY MILLER
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24 Jul 2009 1:32pm
just get DJ to paddle over there with your orders and he can then paddle them all back on a long tow rope.

rollo90
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24 Jul 2009 3:38pm
No need to go to Hawaii to save $$$. My mate brought one for $1500 in Sydney and the same board is in the Roar shop up here on the goldy for $1999. What gives? And I am on North shore of Hawaii at the moment. Quicksilver shop over here PSH 1550-1650 not gripped and real heavy. great buy

my $8.50

boarder paul
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24 Jul 2009 1:48pm
Kagey said...


As it stands $950 USD roughly converts to $1450 NZD but we pay closer to $2200 and more for larger boards (obviously) although I understand shipping costs and tax etc. it's still hard to stomach seeing elsewhere getting way cheaper products.

So I wait with great interest to see if PSH and the like bring down prices for international customers??


I feel the pain i think you should order that psh kagey you do pay for quality.

But i agree the **** we have here is over priced and all our sup rider put togeather in nz would fit inside a tight kangaroos ass.

Session
Session
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24 Jul 2009 3:51pm
Hey Rollo90 ,

What model PSH board did your mate buy? and from what store in Sydney?
boylos
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24 Jul 2009 4:15pm
loco4olas said...

paddlesurfhawaii.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi

All Molded boards 10' and under $950 w/Pad & Fins
10'-3" and over $999 w/Pad & Fins
12' Gun/Ripper $1249 w/Pad & Fins

Who wants to come on a frequent flyer trip to pick up some new boards?

Hmm parallel importing anyone?

At today's exchange rate-one of the new short Rippers (which we know are coming):

950.00 USD = 1,168.95 AUD
United States Dollars Australia Dollars
1 USD = 1.23047 AUD 1 AUD = 0.812696 US

So for about $1600 (FF points plus 'tax', staying with friends) I get a new board and a trip to Hawaii to surf my new PSH Ripper!


I realise it's important to look after local bussiness ,but if you had to buy your board overseas and need to fly over to get it ,use it first then it becomes second hand so custom's won't charge you!

Boylos
boarder paul
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24 Jul 2009 2:35pm
I dont want to be out of place here, I know we all like to get a deal but im sure the dealers will look after you guys in the end. buying direct is almost stabbing the dealers in the back.

But also if the dealers are not willing to pass on the new discounts then they are stabbling us in the back.

I would wait for any further information on this matter before ****ting in your own back yard
log man
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24 Jul 2009 4:46pm
Lance parma and aus 301 ,my heart bleeds for retailers everywhere ,boo hoo !!!. If Importers and retailers price gouge for so long then scream when punters find an alternative , well , suffer in ya jocks I say . Oh and another thing , these are molded SUPs ,manufactured in 3rd world countries ,by 3rd world workers , getting 3rd world wages . if were stupid enough to buy these boards at the pre price rise prices then the jokes on us. cheers Rupert
boarder paul
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24 Jul 2009 2:53pm
Log man.... How on earth were we meant to know about a new price.

Before making a order.



B Chambers
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24 Jul 2009 3:05pm
Howzit everyone... I read this thread after a PM sent me to it. First off, Stoked people in AUS are even into our shapes to begin with...

AUS is a market that I would like to stay in and dropping prices there is a sure thing. The question is to what amount which is what we are in the process of working out. Even in the US mainland it has been a challenge to do. Anything international adds a bit more obstacles to the mix.

Getting boards to surfers and paddlers there at a fair price is the goal. All I can say for now is stay tuned and within a few weeks a plan will be in place. This goes for other parts of the World as well...

Aloha, BC
Bnaccas
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24 Jul 2009 5:15pm
Remember Blane makes money off any distributor around the world just like any brand with
independent distributors so price parity is impossible.

BUT, Blane in his initial post about the up coming price changes and distribution stated clearly he
never got into shaping to make a heap of money, so I would be suprised if his cut when selling to
OS distributors is very high. If so he will need to re-think pretty quickly.

However the Hawaii holiday idea sounds good and bringing a board back second hand won't cost you a cent except the purchase.

In saying that though, support the local retailer!

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