Paddle blade size & shaft length

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Th0m0
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16 Sep 2011 10:00pm
There was a good thread on this topic about 12 months ago and people had some strong feelings and differing opinions. See here:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/Various-Paddle-Blade-Sizes-And-Speed/?page=1

I'm interested to know if anybodys changed their opinion. Do the elite people still use bigger blades or are they using smaller or more moderate blade sizes? Is it easier to learn good technique with a smaller blade, or is just a personal thing?

Also is anybody using a really short paddle shaft length in the surf. I've heard of people using paddles as short as head high . Anybody else doing that?
DavidJohn
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16 Sep 2011 10:59pm
Still small blades for me and any shorter than 8" over (for surfing) causes me to bend over too much to fully dip the blade.

DJ
rahams
rahams
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16 Sep 2011 11:09pm
Th0m0 said...

There was a good thread on this topic about 12 months ago and people had some strong feelings and differing opinions. See here:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/Various-Paddle-Blade-Sizes-And-Speed/?page=1

I'm interested to know if anybodys changed their opinion. Do the elite people still use bigger blades or are they using smaller or more moderate blade sizes? Is it easier to learn good technique with a smaller blade, or is just a personal thing?

Also is anybody using a really short paddle shaft length in the surf. I've heard of people using paddles as short as head high . Anybody else doing that?


im far from elite but ive been training with the big 110 qblade
for me it really brings out my faults .
when i switch back to a smaller blade i feel alot more in control
HumanCartoon
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17 Sep 2011 12:13am
I currently have a blade that is too big. I liken it to cycle training on hills with heavy wheels - I think it makes me stronger and forces me to concentrate on form.
Th0m0
Th0m0
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17 Sep 2011 3:46am
jt737 said...

A lot more info here

http://www.kenalu.com/2011/09/how-do-paddles-work/



The author of that article, PonoBill, posted it on the zone for discussion. This is a quote from him as part of the discussion.

"You WILL do more work pulling with a smaller blade to go the same speed, but that doesn't mean it isn't a good solution for you. If the less work pulling is at a cost of more work keeping the paddle under control then the bigger blade is a net loss.

I don't think anyone is going to benefit by buying a 12" wide blade because it's less work to pull. Matching the blade to your fitness, strength, type of paddling and stroke is the most important thing. If you can swing a little bigger blade without suffering control and fatigue issues then you'll go faster. If not, then you wont."

I think that seems to be a pretty good answer to my question on blade size .
Scotty88
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17 Sep 2011 8:05am
My only paddle I am using at the moment is the QB Big Mama Kalama with 10" blade. I Like to mix it up with my 9" blade (until it went missing 2 mths ago). After paddling the 10" for a few sessions I would go back to the 9" and it felt like I was pulling a 7" through the water. I see it a bit like athletes that train at high altitude then go back to normal training conditions.
As much as I enjoy paddling with my 10", I do miss my 9".
DavidJohn
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17 Sep 2011 10:20am
Scotty88 said...

My only paddle I am using at the moment is the QB Big Mama Kalama with 10" blade. I Like to mix it up with my 9" blade (until it went missing 2 mths ago). After paddling the 10" for a few sessions I would go back to the 9" and it felt like I was pulling a 7" through the water. I see it a bit like athletes that train at high altitude then go back to normal training conditions.
As much as I enjoy paddling with my 10", I do miss my 9".



Big paddle blades suck.. I can't believe you like it..

DJ
CMC
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17 Sep 2011 11:04am
I remember reading something somewhere that made the most sense on this topic.

It was basically that rather than having a paddle blade as big as you can get away with having a blade as small as you can get away with.

The reasoning is that if you watch video of people paddling the blade enters and exits the water at the same place.

If the blade is too small it slips, this is inefficient, it will require a higher rating with less pull meaning it feels easier but to go faster probably way more fitness. Too big it creates no advantage to a correct sized blade as it holds in place anyway and is heavier and creates more drag on exit, recovery etc.

No need to be huge but just big enough to ensure that when used with a good catch does not slip through the water. A stronger guy will need a bigger blade to hold in place. Most important though is a good catch...
DavidJohn
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17 Sep 2011 11:29am
CMC said...


It was basically that rather than having a paddle blade as big as you can get away with having a blade as small as you can get away with.

A stronger guy will need a bigger blade to hold in place. Most important though is a good catch...



Good points.. Except a stronger guy doesn't necessarily need a bigger blade.. They just needs to paddle with slightly less force.

I can rip these small blades through the water.. and over powering them if I wanted to but IMO the trick it to back off a smidge so you don't over power the blade.

It's like peddling a mountain bike so hard you can spin the rear tire with each peddle stroke.. I can do that also on loose dirt but the idea is not to.. Back off a whisker and you get full grip.

I think that's why some don't like smaller blades.. They paddle then too hard.. The same with blade flutter.. Back off a smidge and most blades wont flutter.

IMO.. It's about paddling right.. not the hardest.

DJ

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