I'm doing a lot more distance paddle for fitness lately manly up and down currumbin creek and tally river if anyone else is interested let me know and we can work out some times.Good thing about doing it up the rivers is you don't need to worry about getting cars from point A to point B .I've been doing it real early then buy the time i get back to the alley its time to go out and get a few waves great start to the day i recon, other wise we could do it late in the arvo's which is prob a better option for week days.