Paddle guards? Necessary?

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loco4olas
loco4olas
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6 Apr 2009 8:20am
Just wondering whether paddle guards are a hoax? SurfCo Hawaii is the one someone suggested.
Piros
Piros
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6 Apr 2009 8:30am
It does save your board , a bit of electrical tape all way round your paddle edge will also do the trick.I don't like the retail paddle guard it makes your paddle plonk because of it's thick edges causing the blade face to cavitate ,BUT if you are going to let a lot of new people try your board and paddle then I throughly recommend the paddle guard.
DavidJohn
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6 Apr 2009 9:18am
I only ever use one layer of electrical tape on the edge of my paddles and not long ago I even took that off because I was not tapping the rail anymore.

Then one day while getting off I rested my paddle blade on the nose of my board as I stepped off and the paddle slipped slightly..and scratched the deck. The tape would have stopped that.

Another day I hit my foot with the paddle blade and Jeez..the pain.. I was sure I'd cut it but hadn't.. Since then I've gone back to using the tape. With tape there's less chance of cutting yourself with.

Also.. As soon as the tape gets nics and tears and starts looking ratty I replace it.. It only takes about one minute to do.

I think that thick paddle guard stuff is overkill and only good for rental gear.

DJ
AA
AA
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6 Apr 2009 10:00am
DavidJohn said...


I think that thick paddle guard stuff is overkill and only good for rental gear.

DJ


So true DJ! The paddle blade is as important as your fins!
Anything you put on edge affects the performance of the blade. Electricle tape has little or no impact.
Best way to protect your rails is rail tape, IMO. $50 saves a $100 repair down the track.
Peel it back and your rails look like new!

AA

loco4olas
loco4olas
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6 Apr 2009 10:55am
AA said...

DavidJohn said...


I think that thick paddle guard stuff is overkill and only good for rental gear.

DJ


So true DJ! The paddle blade is as important as your fins!
Anything you put on edge affects the performance of the blade. Electricle tape has little or no impact.
Best way to protect your rails is rail tape, IMO. $50 saves a $100 repair down the track.
Peel it back and your rails look like new!

AA




On the issue of rail tape-any one tried gaffa and have it stay on?

I've bought some yellow gaffa from Whitworths which is apprently water proof ($5)-haven't tried it yet-much cheaper than rail tape-which is bloody expensive and, I hear, causes cuts from edges?
DavidJohn
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6 Apr 2009 11:06am
Yes.. It does stay on.. I've not used it but I have seen others use it.

DJ
Ben dover
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6 Apr 2009 11:15am
I seen when some has gone to replace the rail tape on there board and the tape has actually peel paint off.
Gorgo
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6 Apr 2009 11:18am
You definitely want some tape on your paddle blade to protect both your rail and the blade itself. I removed the tape once I got reasonably skilled and the second time I went out I had a wipeout and put a ding in the blade edge. I repaired it and the tape went straight back on for good.
stoneaxe
stoneaxe
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6 Apr 2009 1:31pm
I haven't tried the paddle guards but they look to thick to me. I've tried a number of different tapes and/or combination of tapes and I think bro bill has come up with the best way to tape a paddle. The 3M masking tape covered with a single layer of good adhesive tape is near bulletproof and provides great protection. The wax really does make a difference. I don't wax the grip as Bill does here. I find the initial stickiness of the tape goes away pretty quickly with use and then the amount of grip is perfect for me.
http://www.kenalu.com/2008/12/27/prepping-a-paddle/

My 1st board had tape on the rails when I got it. It did pull off paint when I removed it. Definitely don't recommend taping rails. More than likely all its going to do is hide a ding that should be taken care of.
AA
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6 Apr 2009 5:11pm
stoneaxe said...


My 1st board had tape on the rails when I got it. It did pull off paint when I removed it. Definitely don't recommend taping rails. More than likely all its going to do is hide a ding that should be taken care of.


Sure, everyones experience will be different but we have put rail tape over 50 boards - with no drama's. The tape we use is heavy duty and it makes it harder to ding the board. We have a lot of people using our boards and this is by far the best solution for us.
Never had paint peel off Naish, Oxbow or PSH boards?

Andrew.A

Th0m0
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6 Apr 2009 5:49pm
I think it depends on how sharp your paddle blade is (& that varies a lot in my experience) and weather you'd rather have tape on your paddle or your board. You could argue that tape on your rails affects board performance in critical surf. My kids use my board and paddle so I've got a paddle edge gaurd and the rails taped. I haven't noticed any difference in the performance of the board or the paddle but I'm no hellman surfer either. If you have a paddle blade with a sharp edge it, could do a bit of damage if you fall on it in a wipeout as well.

Th0m0
laceys lane
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6 Apr 2009 8:26pm
loco4olas said...

Just wondering whether paddle guards are a hoax? SurfCo Hawaii is the one someone suggested.


i had it on and took it of one day. could believe the difference. never but it back on.i would guess at 30% loss in performance
hilly
hilly
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6 Apr 2009 6:36pm
Insulation tape I put 3 layers and got no chips on a JL which is good seeing how easy they chip.
No loss of performance.
benbuckler
benbuckler
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7 Apr 2009 8:56am
It would be straightforward for manufacturers of paddles to fix a guard at the factory level of production but they don't do this for the simple reason that it would affect the performance of the blade. I agree with the suggestion of electrical tape. I use a single layer of electrical tape around the blade and it works fine. On some boards (including mine) you can still chip the paint, even with rail tape or paddle tape, as a knock on the gelcoat will separate it from the epoxy and stick it to the tape.
regards
AJC
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
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7 Apr 2009 11:28am
Went with the gaffa on the rails (yellow, $5 from Whitworths, matches the Naish colour to make it practically invisible) works a treat. Used two layers of 3M vinyl black electrical tape on the blade and a few wraps at the blade stem-again, works a treat-no discernible performance effect (could be my lack of skill......).
62mac
62mac
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7 Apr 2009 5:58pm
Ben dover said...

I seen when some has gone to replace the rail tape on there board and the tape has actually peel paint off.


It happened to me maybe I tried peeling it off to fast knock myself out!
Th0m0
Th0m0
QLD
529 posts
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7 Apr 2009 10:43pm
benbuckler said...

It would be straightforward for manufacturers of paddles to fix a guard at the factory level of production but they don't do this for the simple reason that it would affect the performance of the blade.


Not sure about that. I've seen a youtube vid of Dave Chun (Kialoa) saying that he thinks his standup paddles will eventually be produced standard with a rubberised trim on the blade. He said the only reason they haven't done it so far is that its too difficult to put it into production.

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stoneaxe
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8 Apr 2009 12:40pm
Another good reason to tape your blade!

bluelinepaddlesurf.blogspot.com/2008/12/paddle-blade-injury-update.html
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