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Stephenseals
Stephenseals
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11 Jul 2014 5:38pm
I do a lot of open water paddling and sometimes into wind what is the best paddle style to save energy when paddling into wind and what's the best style for with the wind?
Would it be short quick strokes into wind and long slow strokes with the wind?
teatrea
teatrea
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11 Jul 2014 5:47pm
I find body position into the wind is important , I.E turning your body or going into a surf stance giving the wind less surface area to push against. Fluttering the blade helps too so that when you exit the stroke your not leaving the blade area to catch the wind. Works for me anyway , although I try not to paddle into the wind , its like pissing into it , doesn't end well
Stephenseals
Stephenseals
QLD
90 posts
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12 Jul 2014 4:57pm
teatrea said..
I find body position into the wind is important , I.E turning your body or going into a surf stance giving the wind less surface area to push against. Fluttering the blade helps too so that when you exit the stroke your not leaving the blade area to catch the wind. Works for me anyway , although I try not to paddle into the wind , its like pissing into it , doesn't end well


I love it the end bit I mean.
Thank you very much for your suggestions.
hanza1111
hanza1111
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13 Jul 2014 5:33pm
Stephenseals said..
I do a lot of open water paddling and sometimes into wind what is the best paddle style to save energy when paddling into wind and what's the best style for with the wind?
Would it be short quick strokes into wind and long slow strokes with the wind?


Almost the right idea but other way around.
Upwind should be your recovery... try bottom hand lower down and keep the strokes long and moving (ok to go past feet here) + feather the blade through the air.
It's very easy to think downwind as relaxing, and many times is or can be... but downwind you should be going hard in bursts catching and keeping up with linking bumps (go hard... recover and wait for next bump - repeat over and over :) )

saying all that sometimes if it's nuking windy you just have to do high rep quick strokes into the wind to get anywhere... great interval training into the wind though, just make sure you get a good downwind 2nd half for on the way home.
hope that helps.
HW
Stephenseals
Stephenseals
QLD
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16 Jul 2014 9:11am
hanza1111 said..

Stephenseals said..
I do a lot of open water paddling and sometimes into wind what is the best paddle style to save energy when paddling into wind and what's the best style for with the wind?
Would it be short quick strokes into wind and long slow strokes with the wind?



Almost the right idea but other way around.
Upwind should be your recovery... try bottom hand lower down and keep the strokes long and moving (ok to go past feet here) + feather the blade through the air.
It's very easy to think downwind as relaxing, and many times is or can be... but downwind you should be going hard in bursts catching and keeping up with linking bumps (go hard... recover and wait for next bump - repeat over and over :) )

saying all that sometimes if it's nuking windy you just have to do high rep quick strokes into the wind to get anywhere... great interval training into the wind though, just make sure you get a good downwind 2nd half for on the way home.
hope that helps.
HW


Thanks heaps for the tips I have only ever paddled on my own and had no one to compare to, interesting what you said about not paddling past your feet did not know that, why is that so?
Again thanks for the input.
Tang
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16 Jul 2014 11:07pm
Because once the stroke gets a bit past your feet, the angle of the blade means you're pulling you and the board down into the water rather than along the top of the water. Google it a bit and you wil find quite a bit about efficient paddling.
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
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16 Jul 2014 11:18pm
IMO.. The best tip for paddling into the wind is to use a small paddle blade..
Stephenseals
Stephenseals
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90 posts
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17 Jul 2014 4:31pm
Tang said..
Because once the stroke gets a bit past your feet, the angle of the blade means you're pulling you and the board down into the water rather than along the top of the water. Google it a bit and you wil find quite a bit about efficient paddling.


The science of it all blows me away interesting I went for a run this morning into wind on the way and with on the way back and tried not to go past my feet, I have a increased my average speed slightly but more than anything it felt easier.
Thanks.
Stephenseals
Stephenseals
QLD
90 posts
QLD, 90 posts
17 Jul 2014 4:34pm
DavidJohn said..
IMO.. The best tip for paddling into the wind is to use a small paddle blade..


Thanks I have reduced the blade slightly from my original but could go smaller again what size blade do you use I saw your down wind vid looks like alot of fun.
JDJ
JDJ
QLD
13 posts
JDJ JDJ
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18 Jul 2014 4:16am
Paddling into the wind is more about leg drive insync with oncoming bumps then different types of strokes
Stephenseals
Stephenseals
QLD
90 posts
QLD, 90 posts
18 Jul 2014 12:09pm
JDJ said..
Paddling into the wind is more about leg drive insync with oncoming bumps then different types of strokes


Thanks for the feedback not fully sure what you are saying can you elaberate.
DannyD
DannyD
NSW
17 posts
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18 Jul 2014 9:16pm
Tang said..
Because once the stroke gets a bit past your feet, the angle of the blade means you're pulling you and the board down into the water rather than along the top of the water. Google it a bit and you wil find quite a bit about efficient paddling.


Jump on the quickblade sight.......they have a great explanatory video
DannyD
DannyD
NSW
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18 Jul 2014 9:18pm
DannyD said..

Tang said..
Because once the stroke gets a bit past your feet, the angle of the blade means you're pulling you and the board down into the water rather than along the top of the water. Google it a bit and you wil find quite a bit about efficient paddling.



Jump on the quickblade sight.......they have a great explanatory video


Sorry Tang, meant this for Stephenseals
JDJ
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JDJ JDJ
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20 Jul 2014 6:03pm
Stephenseals said...
JDJ said..
Paddling into the wind is more about leg drive insync with oncoming bumps then different types of strokes


Thanks for the feedback not fully sure what you are saying can you elaberate.


Basically you want to be lifting your weight up as you rise over a bump and then drive your board forward on the way down the other side. Basically semi squats driving through your quads and forward out through your heals
Stephenseals
Stephenseals
QLD
90 posts
QLD, 90 posts
21 Jul 2014 10:12am
DannyD said..

Tang said..
Because once the stroke gets a bit past your feet, the angle of the blade means you're pulling you and the board down into the water rather than along the top of the water. Google it a bit and you wil find quite a bit about efficient paddling.



Jump on the quickblade sight.......they have a great explanatory video


Quickblade how to SUP / Jim Terrell.

I just watched this vid on the net thanks for the tip.

Cheers
Stephenseals
Stephenseals
QLD
90 posts
QLD, 90 posts
21 Jul 2014 10:14am
JDJ said..

Stephenseals said...

JDJ said..
Paddling into the wind is more about leg drive insync with oncoming bumps then different types of strokes



Thanks for the feedback not fully sure what you are saying can you elaberate.



Basically you want to be lifting your weight up as you rise over a bump and then drive your board forward on the way down the other side. Basically semi squats driving through your quads and forward out through your heals


I will give it a go for sure.

thank you.
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