Recutting Kialoa Shaft

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PTWoody
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18 Jan 2010 11:44pm
If someone happened to cut a Kialoa shaft and epoxy the handle into place, then several weeks and several sore shoulders later, realise that the shaft was cut too long... is it possible to get a replacement Kialoa handle and recut the shaft?
DavidJohn
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19 Jan 2010 12:05am
This might help.. www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39056&SearchTerms=cutting,a,carbon,paddle

I'll find out if new T handles are available from Kialoa and how much.. That will save you the hassle of getting the shaft out of the handle.

You can try gently heating it up with a hair dryer and see it it will come apart first.

DJ
PTWoody
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19 Jan 2010 1:19am
Thanks DJ, I have a heat gun for stripping paint, a bit more industrial strength than a hair drier, but it's not my paddle and not my sore shoulders so I'll let the unfortunate owner decide whether he wants to go down that path. I originally showed him your demo thread (that you reposted the link above) before he started which was very useful, but his current problem is not the cutting or gluing or alignment, it's all about the length he chose to go with. I think he erred on the side of too long and now he's spending more time in the surf than flat water and he's feeling the pain. If you do hear of replacement T handles from Kialoa, please let me know.

By the way, we'll most likely hit StKilda beach for some early mornings pre-work this Thursday and Friday. What shift are you on this week?
Ali Cat
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19 Jan 2010 9:27am
Hey PT,
Try pouring boiling water on the handle - it should heat it enough to expand the handle slightly and then twist the handle to break the epoxy glue. You'll need a decent amount of water to heat it enough (1.5-2L) and a lot of force (might need 2 people) to loosen the handle. It takes time but it does work. I've had to do it twice, once to shorten the paddle and 2nd time cause I got water in the shaft and had to drain it. Hasn't caused any damage to the handle or the shaft and saves trying to get a replacement handle.
Cheers,
Ali
DavidJohn
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19 Jan 2010 10:59am
PTWoody said...

Thanks DJ, I have a heat gun for stripping paint, a bit more industrial strength than a hair drier, but it's not my paddle and not my sore shoulders so I'll let the unfortunate owner decide whether he wants to go down that path. I originally showed him your demo thread (that you reposted the link above) before he started which was very useful, but his current problem is not the cutting or gluing or alignment, it's all about the length he chose to go with. I think he erred on the side of too long and now he's spending more time in the surf than flat water and he's feeling the pain. If you do hear of replacement T handles from Kialoa, please let me know.

By the way, we'll most likely hit StKilda beach for some early mornings pre-work this Thursday and Friday. What shift are you on this week?


Don't use the heat gun.. Been there done that and the carbon will dissolve if it gets slightly too hot.. I like the boiling water idea.

I'll be down there Thu/Fri.. see you there.

DJ

angie pangi
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19 Jan 2010 10:35am
DJ is right heat guns are touche you can use them but you have to be very care full. I just checked and it takes 3 seconds holding it in the one spot to disovle the carbon. Best idea if you have to heat is to start warm and slowly get hotter just make sure you do not get too hot or you will have a weak paddle.

Cheers Jacko
Piros
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19 Jan 2010 10:41am
I've done this before , as long as you cut off at least 50mm it's no problem.

1/ Simply cut it off with a hack saw (make sure it's square)

2/ Get a Dremel tool (small finishing barrel style grinder) and ream out the handel off cut from inside the shaft .DON'T GO TOO BIG.

3/ Use the small tool to grind the shaft off the handle.

4/ clean up with some sand paper and glue back in

Takes 10 mins but carbon dust makes a mess in your garage so do it outside , if you don't have a dremel style grinder just buy the tool and stick in the end of a small drill.Keep the heat off that will only wreck your handle and shaft.

You can buy one of the grinders with all the bits for only $29

http://www.mytoolstore.com.au/dremel-cordless-nail-grooming-p-754.html


Rob
DavidJohn
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19 Jan 2010 12:51pm


If you do hear of replacement T handles from Kialoa, please let me know.



I'll have some next week.. They cost about 20-25 dollars each.

If you have the tools and the time to drill out the handle yourself that would the cheaper option.

Remember.. (IMO) .. it's better to have a paddle a little long rather than a little short.

DJ

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